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Old 05-12-2005, 05:44 AM
billyjex billyjex is offline
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Default God awful river vs a donk, party 15/30

messing around in the 15, main villian in this hand is pretty aggro donkey. he has open raised 76o on the CO. thats all i can give you.

Party Poker 15/30 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $15.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP3 folds, BB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: (9 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 10 BB
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Old 05-12-2005, 06:15 AM
GetThere1Time GetThere1Time is offline
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Default Re: God awful river vs a donk, party 15/30

Edit: miss read that as mp3 being the aggro donk. If bb is really that aggro I think you gotta call this river. You're chopping/winning enough of the time.
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Old 05-12-2005, 06:21 AM
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Default Re: God awful river vs a donk, party 15/30

depends on how much he bluffs post flop. If he's the uberlag you say he is i just close my eyes and call one time. You certainly can't beat anything he bets for value but he might have a naked T enough times to make this a profitable call.
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:47 AM
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Default Re: God awful river vs a donk, party 15/30

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he has open raised 76o on the CO.

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And the problem with this is?
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Old 05-12-2005, 11:01 AM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: God awful river vs a donk, party 15/30

Nice fold, given the way the hand played out (you 3-bet the flop, bet the turn), I can't see him making a pure bluff at the river.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: God awful river vs a donk, party 15/30

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he has open raised 76o on the CO.

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And the problem with this is?

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not saying it's a bad play, but he seemed to be aggressive in spots without the cards needed to be (everyone folded the flop and he showed 7 6o. kinda donkey behavior.)

that said, i fold the river, he shows 10 3o, and i suck. i really couldn't see anything he'd play that would beat me (my read of him is based on 4 orbits of play; i didn't have any notes or previous experience with him, he wasn't super laggish but had weird betting patterns.)
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: God awful river vs a donk, party 15/30

Why are you playing j9s in your position to begin with ? Thats an automatic fold IMO.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:46 PM
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Why are you playing j9s in your position to begin with ? Thats an automatic fold IMO.

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it isn't too bad in a loose passive game if you play well postflop.
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: God awful river vs a donk, party 15/30

So painful. Good fold.

-Eric
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Old 05-12-2005, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: God awful river vs a donk, party 15/30

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Why are you playing j9s in your position to begin with ? Thats an automatic fold IMO.

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Too tight. There's too limpers and a poster already in the hand. It's likely that your call will encourage others to come in behind you as well. Call.

Good luck.
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