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Old 12-30-2005, 11:06 PM
obsidian obsidian is offline
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Default 20/40 - Mid pair on A high flop

Poster is a tag. SB is a loose passive.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP posts a blind of $20.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:06 AM
wackjob wackjob is offline
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Default Re: 20/40 - Mid pair on A high flop

I almost always lead in this type situation. I think you will make more in the long run, steal more, and save more when you are behind.
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 - Mid pair on A high flop

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I almost always lead in this type situation. I think you will make more in the long run, steal more, and save more when you are behind.

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This is what I am trying to figure out. The thing is, the only hand I ever see anyone call me with here is a hand I am behind. However, a tag will bet this flop just about every time. Plus, it is unlikely he has an A since I think he would have opened with it.
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Old 12-31-2005, 06:59 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 - Mid pair on A high flop

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The thing is, the only hand I ever see anyone call me with here is a hand I am behind.

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This board is pretty draw-heavy so I don't see how getting called means we're always behind.

I'd like check-raising the tag after the passive guy folds for sure as a complete bluff. With a hand that could very well be best but in need of protection, I'd prefer to bet the flop myself.
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