AA with 4 opponents.

#1 12-15-2005, 06:22 PM

My computer chrashed so I have no reads whatsoever on any of these.

Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 folds, UTG 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero caps, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Explanation? No.

Flop: (21.00 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero raises, SB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

What hoping that my raise here would scare away at least one, but no...

Turn: (15.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

This is where I start questioning my play. But with 4 opponents what can I really do here? Someone is bound to have a better hand than one pair here... and since they called the bet they wont go anywhere to my raise, all I do is making the pot bigger with a hand that I don't feel is the best atm.

River: (20.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB raises, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, UTG calls.

I was ready to cap it here. Seems fine? K10 and 9 10 is the only hands that beat me.

Final Pot: 29.50 BB.

shant · #2 12-15-2005, 06:28 PM

Wow this is tough hand readless. I guess UTG is on KK or AK and can't let it go. The only hands I can figure for the SB is 9T or QJ, but I feel like the typical player would checkraise 9T on the turn. The problem is anyone thinking can put you on at least 2-pair on that river, so checkraising QJ would be pretty stupid.

One hand I just thought of is some sort of set, but they'd all be pretty oddly played if he had 44,88,JJ, or QQ.

I think with UTG commmitted to showing down, the 3-bet is good. I would really hate being capped on the river though.

Yeah, I think I play this the same.

#3 12-15-2005, 06:32 PM

I'm worried about SB here, he cold called preflop and on the flop... and now donked the turn... That has to say a lot, to me he MUST have a straight and donked an open ender on the turn... but I suppose a flush draw is equally as likely. But why is he raising this river if he missed? What else could he have, I suppose 2 pair or a set?

#4 12-15-2005, 06:35 PM

i'm probably raising the turn and calling a 3-bet. I think I cap the river and expect to see SB's counterfeited lower set.

ajm36 · #5 12-15-2005, 06:40 PM

Everything looks good except the turn which I raise, but with the number of people in the pot, your decision seems fine. I would guess that SB either has T9, QJ, JJ, or QQ, or he could betting the flush draw. SB will most likely 3-bet T9 and QQ, and is more likely to just call with QJ and JJ and the flush draw. He won't be 3-betting a worse hand than yours. I really think everything you did here was fine.

Edit: I did not address the 88 and 44 possibility from SB, but these are also set poss. and may not get 3-bet from SB either.

#6 12-15-2005, 06:50 PM

preflop and flop seem fine, if someone is drawing to some kind of raggedy straight or flush on the turn we should raise to make them pay, although if i had to guess i'd say we're behind then. nice river, definitely cap it. maybe we jumped ahead of a lower set?

bbb

#7 12-16-2005, 03:43 AM

Ok since here isn't any more discussion.

SB showed T9 and took down the pot. Looking at it afterwards, his line should have told me that I am drawing dead here. But he could aswell have 44 or 88.

#8 12-16-2005, 07:44 AM

SB should have bet the flop.