marginal made hand in BB

I have Q8o in BB unraised pot

Flop comes Q27 with 2 clubs I have Qc it is a 5way pot.

A moderately aggressive player acts soon after me and a fairly agro player acts last, mainly passive players inbetween.

What is my plan here?

Thanks

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I have Q8o in BB unraised pot

Flop comes Q27 with 2 clubs I have Qc it is a 5way pot.

A moderately aggressive player acts soon after me and a fairly agro player acts last, mainly passive players inbetween.

What is my plan here?

Thanks

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Playing these type of hands are never fun but lets give it a go, If there is an aggressive player close to your left who will potentially raise this flop on many hands you can beat, then you should lead the flop and hope he raises to protect your hand, and if its just you and him on the turn, theres nothing wrong with just checking and calling the rest of the way since he will usually bet your hand for you and you cannot get outplayed off of the best hand this way. So in your hand example you should lead the flop, the aggressive player in late position is not important in my opinion, since we can use the aggressive player close to our left to likely freeze him out. Now if there was just an aggressive player in late position, then you should check and see the action, if it goes bet/raise, you should fold, if it goes bet, call, call, you again should fold. If it gets checked around to the aggressive player on the button who then bets, you should raise.

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I don't think it's right to assume the moderately aggressive player to our left is going to be of any help. He may raise A7 or 87, but if he raises I think it will usually just be a better Q. Also, our hand doesn't even need flop protection.

I'd just check the flop and call an early bettor or CR a late bettor.

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You have top pair in an unraised pot - bet!

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You have top pair in an unraised pot - bet!

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God I wish this game was that simple.

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You have top pair in an unraised pot - bet!

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God I wish this game was that simple.

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It is in this case. Giving a free card is a disaster.

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I don't think it's right to assume the moderately aggressive player to our left is going to be of any help. He may raise A7 or 87, but if he raises I think it will usually just be a better Q. Also, our hand doesn't even need flop protection.

I'd just check the flop and call an early bettor or CR a late bettor.

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You have a point, If I felt that the aggressive player close to my left would not raise with many hands I could beat then I would check and hope the late position player bets and then raise him. Or I may check and call, or check and fold depending on the action.

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You have top pair in an unraised pot - bet!

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God I wish this game was that simple.

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It is in this case. Giving a free card is a disaster.

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giving a free card in a small pot is not a disaster, and unfortunately this game is not that simple. With top pair weak kicker or top pair strong kicker, unraised pot or not, there are many variables in play that can make checking better than betting and vice versa.

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You have top pair in an unraised pot - bet!

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God I wish this game was that simple.

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It is in this case. Giving a free card is a disaster.

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giving a free card in a small pot is not a disaster, and unfortunately this game is not that simple. With top pair weak kicker or top pair strong kicker, unraised pot or not, there are many variables in play that can make checking better than betting and vice versa.

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giving a free card in a small pot is much worse than taking it down to a bet and win vs. those hands that wont call ab et but may improve to beat you w/ a free card when you are OOP and there are 2 overcards that can come to your pair.

this hand is indeed pretty simple.

Barron

this is a must bet on the flop.