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Old 10-24-2005, 02:21 PM
pooh74 pooh74 is offline
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Default Re: (22) Am I missing something on how to play AK

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You guys crack me up.

To the coin-flip-assumers: either one of these players could have anything, early in the 22s. One of them with a pair is *worst* case, and even that's not so bad.

To the "I can outplay these suckers later" crowd: Just how many premium hands do you think you're getting in a shallow-stack, fast-structure SNG?

And to top it off, you've got the raiser comfortably covered in chips.

I auto-push this, and it's very, very easy.

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ahh, grapefruit to my rescue! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:22 PM
zambonidrivr zambonidrivr is offline
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Default Re: (22) Am I missing something on how to play AK

this is why sng's will remain profitable to winning players.

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Old 10-24-2005, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: (22) Am I missing something on how to play AK

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To the "I can outplay these suckers later" crowd: Just how many premium hands do you think you're getting in a shallow-stack, fast-structure SNG?

And to top it off, you've got the raiser comfortably covered in chips.

I auto-push this, and it's very, very easy.

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this is the first level, so if you are getting antsy to get your money in already, I think yer crazy! and i would rather take AJo 5 handed, than AK in this situation. no need to take advantage of every single miniscule edge you get on every single hand...

comfortably covered? we are talking level 1 here. ah, nevermind, difference of opinion, but i think you are taking way too many risks this early...
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: (22) Am I missing something on how to play AK

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One of the lessons I've had to learn while moving from $10's-$50's

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The 50s are a totally different story. But the 22s? Come on!
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:50 PM
zambonidrivr zambonidrivr is offline
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Default Re: (22) Am I missing something on how to play AK

not this early. sorry man. just a diff in opinion. it's all good.
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:51 PM
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It seems all the 'regulars' recommend a push, but the fact that villain is shortstacked and raises that much is an important factor. If he had an average stack, and you have no reason to believe he's a bad player, is a call better then?
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Old 10-24-2005, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: (22) Am I missing something on how to play AK

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It seems all the 'regulars' recommend a push, but the fact that villain is shortstacked and raises that much is an important factor. If he had an average stack, and you have no reason to believe he's a bad player, is a call better then?

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I think someone with this many chips this early gives us a lot of reason to believe he is not a solid player...nevermind it is the 11s.

You know what, the best thing about this hand is that whether you push or fold, over the long haul, its not going to be THAT much of a difference. I just don't like calling and playing from SB too much, but even that's not horrible.
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Old 10-24-2005, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: (22) Am I missing something on how to play AK

Could you explain these numbers here? Which one is my over all ev if I push?
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Old 10-24-2005, 03:04 PM
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You know what, the best thing about this hand is that whether you push or fold, over the long haul, its not going to be THAT much of a difference.

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I agree over the long haul the difference will be negligible. so, i guess it really lies more in your tolerance for busting out early. If you dont mind getting busted early, then by all means get your chips in. but, if it bothers you and ends up affecting your play, then fold it. Its a matter of choice. but i think that because the debate is pretty evenly divided, that there is no clear cut answer...just preference.
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Old 10-24-2005, 03:10 PM
mhcmarty mhcmarty is offline
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Default Re: (22) Am I missing something on how to play AK

I'd like to see the hand history on how vilan was busted down to his current chip stack. That might swing the decision.
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