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11-30-2005, 08:01 PM
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PS, $60 Why is this A8o at CO+1 not a push?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
CO (t1305) Button (t1065) SB (t1620) BB (t4945) UTG (t1815) MP1 (t895) Hero (t1855) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, [color=#CC3333]Hero raises to t1855</font>, [color=#666666]2 folds</font>, SB calls t1520 (All-In), [color=#666666]1 fold</font>. I fooled around with the stack sizes a couple of times so that there was less disparity among them. 
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#2
11-30-2005, 08:11 PM
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Re: PS, $60 Why is this A8o at CO+1 not a push?
You're not yet THAT short-stacked and there's too many people to act after you. If you had something like 1200 chips, then I think it should be a push here (or at least from the CO).
Without checking SNG-PT, I think ATo would be the smallest ace to push in that situation.
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#3
11-30-2005, 08:11 PM
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Re: PS, $60 Why is this A8o at CO+1 not a push?
A8o is a mediocre hand, very often dominated
Four players to get through Risking your entire stack for less than 1/6 of it if everone folds >9BB means you have time to wait
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11-30-2005, 08:19 PM
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Re: PS, $60 Why is this A8o at CO+1 not a push?
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You're not yet THAT short-stacked and there's too many people to act after you. If you had something like 1200 chips, then I think it should be a push here (or at least from the CO). Without using SNG-PT, I think ATo would be the smallest ace to push in that situation. [/ QUOTE ] I'm a newb, could you explain what this means?
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#6
11-30-2005, 08:20 PM
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Re: PS, $60 Why is this A8o at CO+1 not a push?
The reason I fooled around with stack sizes, and calling ranges too by the way, is it seems that I've seen worse hands as pushes on SNGPT in the same position but with stack sizes that were closer to each other. I just didn't understand it.
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#7
11-30-2005, 08:25 PM
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Re: PS, $60 Why is this A8o at CO+1 not a push?
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[ QUOTE ] You're not yet THAT short-stacked and there's too many people to act after you. If you had something like 1200 chips, then I think it should be a push here (or at least from the CO). Without using SNG-PT, I think ATo would be the smallest ace to push in that situation. [/ QUOTE ] I'm a newb, could you explain what this means? [/ QUOTE ] Sit N Go Power Tools, a program created by Eastbay.
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#8
11-30-2005, 08:25 PM
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Re: PS, $60 Why is this A8o at CO+1 not a push?
That's cos the others are idiots. I see bad pushes in the $109s all the time, so no surprise there would be some at the $60s too, not everyone understands ICM properly. As raptor would say, holla
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#9
11-30-2005, 08:41 PM
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Re: PS, $60 Why is this A8o at CO+1 not a push?
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That's cos the others are idiots. I see bad pushes in the $109s all the time, so no surprise there would be some at the $60s too, not everyone understands ICM properly. As raptor would say, holla [/ QUOTE ] What does that have to do with my question? I'm posting some more curiosities. What I'm curious about is why SNGPT rates them the way they are rated. I don't think it's evaluating players as idiots or pros, it's using formulas.
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#10
11-30-2005, 08:42 PM
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Re: PS, $60 Why is this A8o at CO+1 not a push?
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The reason I fooled around with stack sizes, and calling ranges too by the way, is it seems that I've seen worse hands as pushes on SNGPT in the same position but with stack sizes that were closer to each other. I just didn't understand it. [/ QUOTE ] Are you sure the blinds were the same? A single level increase in blinds makes a HUGE difference.
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