ONLINE Coach....

wnewcomb · #1 04-05-2005, 02:25 AM

Ok a few things I read alot of 2+2 info well read in poker including sevral 2+2 books... all that aside I am lost when it comes to taking advantage of online play and what it has to offer...
I take poker very serious and try to improve my game all the time...
Including playing as much as possible..
I however need a coach for online play have been dropping a few hundred here and there but never anything serious....
always telling myself just keeping sharp....
What I need to learn is how to use programs that help break down your play ...
Why look at your play over 10000 hands compared to 2000 hands ....
How to take notes on other players ....
Why running 4 tables seems to be serious online play of choice...
I would listen to all advice and consider myself a "good" poker player....
What I am not is up on all the online advantages that I have...
Can I get a coach somewhere to help walk me thru certain functions one step at time?
I want to be able to use all the tools that I have to make me a better player....
tired of nickel and diming my way through a hundard here and there; about to make a 500 dollar drop....
When I do this I want to be ready for and able to use everything I can that will help me make money..
Over the phone through e-mail or even face to face if possible....I just need a little help (well maybe a little more than that)
Also I know all great teachers come at some price willing to pay if I can gain rewards from it at a later date...
Know I am not a true 2+2'er yet but I respect some of the things you guys have to say about poker and am amazed that it takes me 5 reads on some threads just to get everything and I felt I was a smart person.... oh well ... thanks in advance for all your input....

PS Please forgive grammer and spelling my good subjects in school math and gambling.. Thanks Again

ZBTHorton · #2 04-05-2005, 02:32 AM

I sent you a PM. I can get you started if you like.

PuertoKid · #3 04-05-2005, 02:43 AM

Hi, most of the winning 2+2 players use the system here: winning poker

Some good 2+2ers also swear by Bill Fillmaff's system, so if you can get over some of his ego, I hear he is an excellent coach too: Bill Fillmaff

I personally use the system at the 1st link, but I've played against some of the fillmaff students and they are tough to beat. Good luck!

lehighguy · #4 04-05-2005, 02:45 AM

I'm PMing you in a sec. I could provide such a service.

ZBTHorton · #5 04-05-2005, 02:46 AM

Who uses those systems exactly?

PuertoKid · #6 04-05-2005, 02:55 AM

Well, for one, I understand that David Sklansky used the system in the 1st link to help him prepare for the recent heads up tourney. Also, if you thoroughly examine Ed Miller's "Small Stakes Holdem" book, you can see that he lifted a lot of material directly from Bill Fillmaff's secret system.

But I don't really think I should be outing the 2+2ers that use the systems (they are numerous and properous) as that could give some of their opponents a competitive advantage...

ZBTHorton · #7 04-05-2005, 02:57 AM

Um. Right. Ok.

That's one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard.

Even if the Sklansky thing is true, I've never heard a single 2+2'r say anything about either one of those sites. And you could argue they don't want to "give away secrets" but we give away advice here 24/7. So that's hardly a consideration.

beernutz · #8 04-05-2005, 02:57 AM

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Hi, most of the winning 2+2 players have never heard of the system here: winning poker

Some good 2+2ers also have never heard of Bill Fillmaff's system, so if you can get over some of his ego, I hear he is an excellent coach too: Bill Fillmaff

I personally use the system at the 1st link, but I've played against some of the fillmaff students and they are tough to beat. Good luck!

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There was a problem with your post but I fixed it.

ZBTHorton · #9 04-05-2005, 03:01 AM

Hehe, if it's a secret system why is he selling it?

Sorry, I get attached to stupidity sometimes...I find this thread funny.

PuertoKid · #10 04-05-2005, 03:07 AM

ZB, I have utmost respect for your abilities as a poker player and coach. But unless you are using one of those two systems, I think your poker education has some holes. No matter how good you are, you could eek out at least another 3bb/100 by adopting some of Bill Fillmaff's principles or the principles from winning poker.

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