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Old 12-20-2005, 11:50 PM
woodguy woodguy is offline
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Default Ooops I missed. Line check?

Hello All,

Sorry about the format.

HIM was being really LAGGY earlier and hammered some flops and played big hands well and aggressive.

Was a bit of a calling station.

BB was sitting out, and I have protected his blinds about 8/10 times.

I made a 2 barrell bluff/semi-bluff, then hit the river.

How's my line?

Hand #10415937-91 at Tue830pmWS1-012 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
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Started at 20/Dec/05 21:54:28

slob711 is at seat 0 with 5575.
dirtymott is at seat 1 with 0 (sitting out).
ME with 5270.
SaucerHD is at seat 3 with 1630.
pops11 is at seat 5 with 1120.
JC1010 is at seat 6 with 5380.
zmansher is at seat 7 with 1525.
HIM at seat 8 with 10340.
JML2 is at seat 9 with 8360.
The button is at seat 1.

ME posts the small blind of 50.
SaucerHD posts the big blind of 100.

slob711: -- --
ME: Jh Ac
SaucerHD: -- --
pops11: -- --
JC1010: -- --
zmansher: -- --
HIM: -- --
JML2: -- --

Pre-flop:

pops11 folds. JC1010 folds. zmansher folds.
HIM calls. JML2 folds. slob711 folds.
ME calls. SaucerHD folds.

Flop (board: 6d 9h 4d):

ME bets 250. HIM calls.

Turn (board: 6d 9h 4d Tc):

ME bets 500. HIM calls.

River (board: 6d 9h 4d Tc Jc):

ME checks. HIM bets 1800. ME goes all-in for 4420.

I think I'm ahead......thoughts?

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Woodguy
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:57 PM
ansky451 ansky451 is offline
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Default Re: Ooops I missed. Line check?

Me doesn't think me gets called by a worse hand enough for this to work. I mean, maybe me does. It's real thin- thats for sure. I think the flop bet is ok, but on the turn its borderline spewing. Firing out of position with basically no info-- i dont like.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: Ooops I missed. Line check?

I like the flop bet, I HATE the turn bet. I'm checking to him. If he checks behind on the turn I'll check/call the river. If he bets huge on the river I may even lay it down pending reads.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: Ooops I missed. Line check?

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It's real thin- thats for sure. I think the flop bet is ok, but on the turn its borderline spewing.

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I agree that its pretty thin.

You don't fire a 2nd shot against LAGs who call with pretty well any two on the flop when they have position?

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Woodguy
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:39 AM
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Default Re: Ooops I missed. Line check?

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You don't fire a 2nd shot against LAGs who call with pretty well any two on the flop when they have position?

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Of course I do. This specific circumstance however, I don't like. The fact that he's LAG would make me less inclined to bet here- I don't think he'll be pushed off a better hand often enough (AKA a pair). I like making informed bluff/semi bluffs better than uninformed ones. It just seems here that you are bluffing with no real information, and aren't really representing anything specific.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:45 AM
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I like making informed bluff/semi bluffs better than uninformed ones. It just seems here that you are bluffing with no real information, and aren't really representing anything specific.

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True.

Good points.

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Woodguy
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Old 12-21-2005, 01:02 PM
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Very read dependently, I respectfully disagree. I like to play this way against a lag vill with a flopped two pair. I get paid off to river and if vill improves at all I get allin.

Conversely, if I am sitting in villain's seat, I will call down your bets if I posses a strong hand, raise you hard on turn with nothing or vulnerable hand that I think is beating you.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:53 PM
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I believe, his failure to act (just call) on turn, is a tremendous indicator of strength.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:03 AM
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I like a raise preflop here. I guess a flop/turn bluff is okay, but probably check/folding turn is best.

Why the hell did you check/push the river? Check/call or bet/call.
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Old 12-21-2005, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Ooops I missed. Line check?

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Why the hell did you check/push the river?

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I thought I was ahead and he may call with a worse hand given my read.

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