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Old 11-03-2005, 05:28 AM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
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Default just got PT, messing around (lc)

only 3k hands so basically no sample size whatsoever

but what is sort of "normal"? for example, im at 27/20, with an aggression factor of 2.69 (with a whopping 8.68 aggression factor on the flop)

is that a lot?
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:30 AM
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Default Re: just got PT, messing around (lc)

i also only have 6 check-raises for 3k hands [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: just got PT, messing around (lc)

Basically you have quite extreme stats for this board I'd say. That's a huge PFR amount, and 27 is quite loose for a TAG... but then I guess you're not a tag.

That total AF is normal (is that with or without preflop figures, what is it without preflop figures?), but 8.68 on the flop is huge.

If this is going to be a stat post, here's mine at my latest shot at NL50
18.5/5.5 AF of 1.9, w%@sd of 57%.

Too weak tight you think? I think I must be cos my ptbb/100 is only like 2.
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:19 AM
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fwiw, I'm about 22/13/4.2 for 6max

I think I am pretty average for the forum, standard TAG
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:20 AM
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Default Re: just got PT, messing around (lc)

mind telling me your ptbb/100 with that? I think I must be too weak tight (see other post in forum)
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Old 11-03-2005, 06:20 AM
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mind telling me your ptbb/100 with that? I think I must be too weak tight (see other post in forum)

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15, but i have to keep reminding, only 3k hands
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Old 11-03-2005, 07:21 AM
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mind telling me your ptbb/100 with that? I think I must be too weak tight (see other post in forum)

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Wouldn't know, too small a sample size

But for 5k hands 12ptbb/100 hands @ 400NL

I've only been playing this 'loose' for the last 5k hands (coaching by BobboFitos, thanks bro!) before this I was playing tighter
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Old 11-03-2005, 08:11 AM
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Default Re: just got PT, messing around (lc)

If you are playing 6-max, 27 VPiP isn't horrible. I am around a 24. Your 20PFR might be a reflection of your small sample size. I think the optimal TAG PFR is between 7-10 with a VPiP of 20-22 at 6-max, but what do I know, I have a 6 PTBB over 70k hands?
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Old 11-03-2005, 08:19 AM
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but what do I know, I have a 6 PTBB over 70k hands?

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Before I go on a rant, I just want to let you know 42 I'm not mad at you, I am mad at other people

6 PTBB/100 hands IS NOT A LOW FIGURE

It may seem low to people who read these forums, but this is because you here a lot from people who run hot over small sample sizes. I am guilty of this, I did it in this thread, and I'd just like to state that I am 99% sure my true winrate is less than 12ptbb/100 hands

No one wants to post "I know this is a small sample size, but guess what guys?!? I'm running 0.7PTBB/100 hands for 15k hands !!!"

When I was first learning this game, it hurt my ego (which is too big) a lot when it seemed the average winrate of 2+2'ers was 12-15PTBB/100 hands, and I do not wish to put fellow 2+2'ers with big egos through this
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: just got PT, messing around (lc)

HotPants, no worries. Hopefully, I didn't come across as a whiner. I just believe that if you are going to comment on PT stats, you need to post your own so OP can decide how credible (or not) your advice is.

Beating NL $200 for 6PTBB is the financial equivalent of beating NL $100 for 12 PTBB and NL $50 for 24 PTBB. Obviously, I don't think I could beat NL $50 for 24 PTBB or anything close, but I just wanted to point out that numbers can be interpreted many different ways. And that moving up you just need to be better than half your previous level's PTBB to make the decision correct (of course your tolerance for variance must also be taken into consideration along with your pansiness factor).

The thing that makes me cry is that the rake taken is equal to almost 70% of my winnings [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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