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Old 02-17-2004, 02:47 PM
J.R. J.R. is offline
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Default Re: Will the U.S. try to stop online gambling

I can tell you laws aren't often interpreted with an eye towards naturally extending their meaning (unless you are dealing with the modern Supreme Court's constitutional jurisdprudence), so the short answer is no, unless it the law mentions something specifically about poker or uses a vague word like "gambling" instead of referencing horse racing. Laws the permit generally prohibited activities are often construed as narrow exceptions to the staus quo and strictly interpeted.
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Old 02-17-2004, 03:13 PM
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....or wait for a nice set of facts (involving allegations of money laundering, drugs, terrorism, etc) in any of the 11 other circuits (who don't have to follow the 5th Circuit's ruling- the 5th circuit encompasses TX, LA and MS) and bring a case there hoping for a more favorable interpretation.

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Good point JR, the Circuit courts do ocassionally disagree, but since I live in Texas I am fine with the current ruling. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 02-17-2004, 03:20 PM
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Speaking of Nevada, what is the exact law? Is it sports betting only or does it apply to poker as well?

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Oddly enough Clarkmeister what (I believe) Nevada has done is to partially legalize internet gambling within the confines of the State (intrastate) which by it's wording also outlaws internet gambling commerce interstate. The regulations are not yet written just the basic law so when The Gaming Commission enacts regulations the specifics will be more clear. Keep in mind this is just my present interpretation and may in no way resemble the final result.
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Old 02-17-2004, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Will the U.S. try to stop online gambling

That 5th Circuit case is interesting. You can find it at:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/...h/0130389p.pdf

It wasn't brought by the Justice Dept. It involved RICO lawsuits brought by 2 internet gamblers looking to avoid their losses and, actually, these 2 were chosen as test cases from 33 identical suits that were pending in Louisiana at the time.

I guess internet poker players' greatest enemies are themselves. We might see more of these types of suits, perhaps brought using general state anti-gambling laws, which are much more vague than the Wire Act.
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Old 02-17-2004, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: Will the U.S. try to stop online gambling

interesting read, everyone should check it out.
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Old 02-18-2004, 03:02 AM
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Default Re: Will the U.S. try to stop online gambling

To quote Colin Nearmyass in one of the fartiest interviews Ive ever smelled, "When trying to be funny, is best to know if target of humor will take it in manner hoped." Cracker, if you took a moment and checked this guys profile youd find he has been a memeber of this forum for all of 2 months. He hasnt been gone....he just got here. As one who enjoys the massive growth Ive seen of this wonderful thing called poker, as well as the growth of this forum, Id hope you could find a nicer way to welcome a new guy who was obviously asking a "newby" kind of question. The only stupid question is the one that doesnt get asked.
By the way Bluff1, welcome to the forum. I read here all the time, but rarely post. I just couldnt hold back this time. Call it "a soft spot for the new guy" syndrome.
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Old 02-18-2004, 03:50 AM
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So, Nevada is the only state to ban this particular type of gambling? Does this qualify for our "irony" discussion?

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Actually if you think about it, it is not ironic at all. Internet gambling takes revenue away from land based casinos and no other state has more to lose than Nevada.
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Old 02-18-2004, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: Anyone know laws for Kansas???

A little off-topic here, but does anyone know what the online gambling laws are for Kansas?? I made a small amount of money in 2003, (like 50 dollars), and I wont be claiming that. I am honest but not THAT honest. I am up about 1400 this year, and playing more seriously. 1st of all is online gambling legal in Kansas? If no, will I be putting myself in any risk by claiming it on my tax returns next year??? From what I understand, the federal IRS will not report you, they just want the tax money, does the state work the same way? I appreciate any answers... you can post them here, or PM me.

As for my thoughts on the original post. Why doesnt the government get their greedy hands into online gambling? Completely legalize it and then take a certain % from the online casinos based in the U.S.... Just a stupid thought I guess.

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Old 02-20-2004, 04:13 AM
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If no, will I be putting myself in any risk by claiming it on my tax returns next year??? From what I understand, the federal IRS will not report you, they just want the tax money, does the state work the same way?]

You are 100% correct on the IRS's point of view.
States may differ state from state..
California for example takes the same position as
the IRS..
It is unlikely you have anything to worry about by
claiming it.

In fact, Id be far more worried about not claiming
it that claiming it.
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