Intersting quote from "The Professer, the Banker, and the Suicide King

Thanks for starting a thread in which you don't know the quote and don't understand it.

[ggbman]

The quote is "When we play Andy Beal, we're at best a two to 1 favorite, maybe even less."

Here's the thing, if they played for 500 hours (which they didn't) at 40 hands an hour they played like 20,000 hands HU. This is NOT EVEN CLOSE to being enough to give any sort of reasonable barometer about either parties expectations. Furthermore, the insuination that they could have a 2-1 edge against ANY solid opponent is humurous. If you know anything edges in poker, you will know this to be true.

[Spook]

40 hands an hour HEADS UP?
I can play 40 hands an hour of 4/8 at a full live table.

[ggbman]

for shits sake, stop nit picking. They played less than 20,000 hands HU.

[AceHigh]

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I need to find to exact quote, but Barry Greenstein says something to the degree of "Outside of the Corporation, Andy Beal is the best HU limit holdem player in the world"

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I really doubt "The Corporation" are the best HU limit players in the world. They rarely play hold 'em in the big mixed games because there are so many good limit hold em players. I know Ivey admitted to making some mistakes (mostly preflop folds) in the NBC HU NL tournament that Sklansky would never make.

[ggbman]

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I need to find to exact quote, but Barry Greenstein says something to the degree of "Outside of the Corporation, Andy Beal is the best HU limit holdem player in the world"

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I really doubt "The Corporation" are the best HU limit players in the world. They rarely play hold 'em in the big mixed games because there are so many good limit hold em players. I know Ivey admitted to making some mistakes (mostly preflop folds) in the NBC HU NL tournament that Sklansky would never make.

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Exactly. Some people don't realize that just because these guys are great at all forms of poker doesn't mean they will fare well against a specialist for one kind. I seriously doubt David Oppenheim is a dog to may of the corporation players in HU limit hold-em. A good example is how Negreanu didn't want a rematch with Joe Cassidy, who doesn't play anywhere near close to the Big Game stakes on a regular basis, but is a limit HE specialist.

Does Joe Cassidy play online? He cant be the best if he does. There is only one champ right now and its erik123.

He never gets a game if there arent atleast 2 fish in the game. I have never seen him play HU or 3 handed in years vs competent opponents. Everybody just sit out.

[mmcd]

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Furthermore, the insuination that they could have a 2-1 edge against ANY solid opponent is humurous. If you know anything edges in poker, you will know this to be true.


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I think you are vastly underestimating the effect of them having several players going against him. If you took 7 players that were equally skilled in HU holdem, and grouped 6 of them into a "team" that could substitute players anytime they wanted and discuss their opponent's play amongst themselves, and pitted that team against the 7th player in a series of lengthy heads up matches, how much of an edge do you think the team would have?

[TStoneMBD]

if erik123 was as good as you say he probably would have taken daniel negreanu up on his challenges.

[Justin A]

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40 hands an hour HEADS UP?
I can play 40 hands an hour of 4/8 at a full live table.

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I'd be willing to wager that you can't.