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#51
11-16-2005, 04:52 PM
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Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well
If I bet and he folds a 2 outer, I gain his equity in the pot, which is about 4%. That's about 1/3 of a BB. Huh. I actually don't think he'll bet the river 1/3 of the time with a hand I beat. I change my vote now that I've worked out the numbers. The pot is big enough that I'd rather win it now. In a smaller pot, though, the fraction of a BB I'd gain from the chance of his betting will be larger than what I forfeit by checking this turn. I guess the only other concern would be getting bluffed off the best hand by a turn c/r, but I don't think any rational player could c/r that turn with a hand I beat. Betting now is better. Thanks for pestering me on that, Reqtech.
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#52
11-16-2005, 04:55 PM
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Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well
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If I bet and he folds a 2 outer, I gain his equity in the pot, which is about 4%. That's about 1/3 of a BB. Huh. I actually don't think he'll bet the river 1/3 of the time with a hand I beat. I change my vote now that I've worked out the numbers. The pot is big enough that I'd rather win it now. In a smaller pot, though, the fraction of a BB I'd gain from the chance of his betting will be larger than what I forfeit by checking this turn. I guess the only other concern would be getting bluffed off the best hand by a turn c/r, but I don't think any rational player could c/r that turn with a hand I beat. Betting now is better. Thanks for pestering me on that, Reqtech. [/ QUOTE ] I'm going to print this out and put it on my refridgerator.
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#53
11-16-2005, 05:34 PM
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Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well
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I guess the only other concern would be getting bluffed off the best hand by a turn c/r, but I don't think any rational player could c/r that turn with a hand I beat. Betting now is better. [/ QUOTE ] I actually considered a c/r after I saw the turn just because it was a good card to represent a set or AK and c/r bluffing the turn seems like a hip thing to do in a 2+2 game. But I decided not to and you would have foiled my plan anyways. In a normal game I would be check-folding without much thought here.
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#54
11-16-2005, 05:38 PM
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Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well
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[ QUOTE ] I call every river bet and raise an ace. Check behind on a Q or K. [/ QUOTE ] Given my range, how is an second A going to give him the winning hand if he didn't have it already? [/ QUOTE ] A second A will make him a big favorite against your range (66% if my calculation are right. I put you on AA-QQ, AK). Without the A he is probably behind (even though your turn check is suspicious).
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#55
11-16-2005, 05:39 PM
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Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well
it's a 2+2 table?
cap every street. It's best if you hit a runner runner flush or boat.
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#56
11-16-2005, 05:46 PM
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Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well
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[ QUOTE ] I guess the only other concern would be getting bluffed off the best hand by a turn c/r, but I don't think any rational player could c/r that turn with a hand I beat. Betting now is better. [/ QUOTE ] I actually considered a c/r after I saw the turn just because it was a good card to represent a set or AK and c/r bluffing the turn seems like a hip thing to do in a 2+2 game. But I decided not to and you would have foiled my plan anyways. In a normal game I would be check-folding without much thought here. [/ QUOTE ] You had QQ?
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#57
11-16-2005, 05:49 PM
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Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I call every river bet and raise an ace. Check behind on a Q or K. [/ QUOTE ] Given my range, how is an second A going to give him the winning hand if he didn't have it already? [/ QUOTE ] A second A will make him a big favorite against your range (66% if my calculation are right. I put you on AA-QQ, AK). Without the A he is probably behind (even though your turn check is suspicious). [/ QUOTE ] Yes, he is ahead more often than he is behind but that is not an argument for a river raise. If he raises he either doesn't get paid off or gets 3-bet by my boat.
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#58
11-16-2005, 05:49 PM
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Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I guess the only other concern would be getting bluffed off the best hand by a turn c/r, but I don't think any rational player could c/r that turn with a hand I beat. Betting now is better. [/ QUOTE ] I actually considered a c/r after I saw the turn just because it was a good card to represent a set or AK and c/r bluffing the turn seems like a hip thing to do in a 2+2 game. But I decided not to and you would have foiled my plan anyways. In a normal game I would be check-folding without much thought here. [/ QUOTE ] You had QQ? [/ QUOTE ] yessir
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#59
11-16-2005, 05:54 PM
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Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well
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[ Yes, he is ahead more often than he is behind but that is not an argument for a river raise. If he raises he either doesn't get paid off or gets 3-bet by my boat. [/ QUOTE ] Point taken.
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