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Old 11-16-2005, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well

Well, he're the real question. What is Sightless's range of hands? Of those hands, what hands will he raise/call/fold if I call? What ones will he raise/call/fold if I raise?
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well

88-KK all are folding if you raise. They may or may not call-down if you just call. I think there's a good chance TT-KK will call this down if you just call (which is obviously great to help pad the pot for you). Also, these hands are never raising.
AT may fold to a raise (obviously bad for us), but AQ and AK definitely won't.
Thus, again, I think raising here sucks.
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:04 AM
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I'm grunching this one, but I feel the pot's too big to fold, so we call this and see if the turn brings us closer to our BD flush or two pair. I'll be interested to see the rest of the posts.
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:08 AM
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Given the preflop action and this ragged board, what exactly are you protecting against?
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well

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This might be interesting. I just sat down, but you know the usual suspects.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP (Sightless) 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB (TheMainEvent) caps</font>, Hero calls, MP (Sightless) calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">TheMainEvent bets</font>.

What's the plan, guys?

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I really dont like calling this flop. If it is a serious table and they are not lagging it up. I fear for you. Another problem I see with calling is that Mp might raise it. heads up I would be more inclined to call down but not here.
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well

Let's move the discussion toward Wook's question of hand ranges....the way I see it, MP 3-bets with AA thru TT, AKs or AKo. Depending on his aggressiveness and his respect of your raises, maybe AQs?

To me BB's cap has got to signal AA, KK, AKs, maybe QQ.

Now I'll go think about the ramifications of that while you guys agree/disagree with my range of hands.
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:18 AM
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Default Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well

Your range is too tight, methinks. This is a serious table, but everyone is playing very aggressively.
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:22 AM
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I see your reasoning here, but if our aces are good it would be an awful mistake to give up this good-sized pot.

So our pair is possibly good, and the BD flush draw adds value. I really want to see the turn card.

By staying in for the one bet, we get to gain some valuable info. Say MP raises and BB 3-bets....we can then safely fold. And if we're assuming good players here, MP has to almost certainly raise or fold, and I would look to see BB's reaction.
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: A Hand from the 2+2 Table that I don\'t think I played very well

Assuming everyone is playing seriously, you have to assign premium hands to BB capping out of position. AA-JJ &amp; AK.

With that flop and his lead out, I don't think that you can narrow that down quite yet.

Raise to protect your hand on the flop. If raised, call and fold the turn UI.
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:36 AM
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This idea of protecting our hand isn't making sense to me in this situation. Raising for information on the cheaper street, maybe, but I don't see any scary drawouts that we need to protect against....maybe someone could enlighten me.
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