Is this a value bet?

TheWorstPlayer · #1 11-11-2005, 10:05 PM

Villain is loose/passive/weird. He just plays weird. I can't quite put my finger on it. He will pull tricky moves but in weird places. Usually he is just loose calling station but then sometimes he'll do something like bet 500 into a 12 pot. He's just weird. His numbers are 45/5 though. And not much postflop aggression either. What do you think? Is this a river value bet? I think it's close and I'm not sure.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 max, 4 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($612)
UTG ($389)
Button ($326.04)
SB ($809.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Button raises to $8, SB (poster) calls $6, Hero calls $4.

Flop: ($24) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, Button folds, SB calls $8.

Turn: ($40) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $30, SB calls $30.

River: ($100) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero...?

(Please ignore the weird flop bet.)

xorbie · #2 11-11-2005, 10:08 PM

Eh. I often check here to see what they have.

DJ Sensei · #3 11-11-2005, 10:12 PM

Bet 50, fold to raise. I think if he was ahead of you, he'd probably have bet or raised by now on this draw-full board.

ajmargarine · #4 11-11-2005, 10:24 PM

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Villain is....weird.

(Please ignore the weird flop bet.)

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Odd Villian, check behind, you only have TPGK. The Big Sexy is probably on his to-do list for the session.

And as for your flop bet...errr...looks perfectly normal to me. Ummm, maybe you can explain your reasoning for why you think it to be weird. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

BobboFitos · #5 11-11-2005, 10:35 PM

Yes, 50

Go_Blue88 · #6 11-11-2005, 10:57 PM

I check b/c I don't know what worse hand is in his range that will call you here. And if he bluff raises that sucks.

JaBlue · #7 11-11-2005, 11:00 PM

I bet this

#8 11-12-2005, 12:06 AM

yeah, what everyone else said, bet

but what the hell was that flop bet? I need to hear your reasoning. Shania be damned?

edit: oh, seems not everyone agrees with a bet. I think a bet is good because of all of the pair+draw hands possible, who might not be too worried about a king on the turn

beset7 · #9 11-12-2005, 04:37 AM

I'm not going to jump on the bandwagon and say bet because I check here against all but the worst calling stations. If you guys are betting 50 and folding to a PSR+ I think its a bad bet. Decent players will raise a weak VB with hands you beat.

I'm open-minded as usual however.

yvesaint · #10 11-12-2005, 04:39 AM

how often do you bet 1/3 pot on a draw heavy flop