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Old 10-24-2005, 11:08 PM
EricW EricW is offline
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Default $22 - AKos after min-reraise + MANY callers

Was this a terrible fold on my part?

***** Hand History for Game 2862796863 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:16483046 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Monday, October 24, 22:47:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 13809 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 7: sevenghst ( $965 )
Seat 5: BuckeyeFiver ( $760 )
Seat 9: Hero ( $1180 )
Seat 8: margiel18 ( $450 )
Seat 3: harvoolio ( $500 )
Seat 4: coachbudka ( $695 )
Seat 10: MrNoOuts ( $1060 )
Seat 2: rob44klotz ( $880 )
Seat 6: afljdhsa ( $715 )
Seat 1: itchyfinger ( $795 )
Trny:16483046 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ah Kc ]
BuckeyeFiver folds.
afljdhsa folds.
>You have options at Table 13772 Table!.
sevenghst calls [30].
margiel18 calls [30].
Hero raises [125].
>You have options at Table 13784 Table!.
>You have options at Table 13784 Table!.
MrNoOuts raises [220].
>You have options at Table 13772 Table!.
itchyfinger calls [220].
rob44klotz folds.
harvoolio folds.
coachbudka folds.
>You have options at Table 13785 Table!.
sevenghst calls [190].
margiel18 calls [190].
Hero folds.
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:12 PM
lastchance lastchance is offline
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Default Re: $22 - AKos after min-reraise + MANY callers

You are getting 9-1 preflop with AK. I think that's enough to try to hit 2 pair or better. Still, it's kinda tough considering someone may have AA. If you decide to push, the dead money is really nice.
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:19 PM
KingDan KingDan is offline
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Default Re: $22 - AKos after min-reraise + MANY callers

I really like a push here.
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:21 PM
Shillx Shillx is offline
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Default Re: $22 - AKos after min-reraise + MANY callers

I instapush in this spot. Too much overlay here not to get greedy.
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:27 PM
splashpot splashpot is offline
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Default Re: $22 - AKos after min-reraise + MANY callers

I think it's more like 10.5-1 unless I messed up somewhere. I just call getting these odds. Some of them probably have midpairs, but I also think it's very likely some of your outs are in other player's hands. That's why I just call instead of push. The rest of it is going in on any A or K high flop though.
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:34 PM
SammyKid11 SammyKid11 is offline
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Default Re: $22 - AKos after min-reraise + MANY callers

It's push-time, man.
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:40 PM
microbet microbet is offline
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Default Re: $22 - AKos after min-reraise + MANY callers

I don't think you can call and play for 2 pair. If you call and hit an A or K you have to go for it most of the time.

I think pushing is probably good, depending on the opponents and without knowing them I think depending on the buyin.

I think I'm going to start keeping a tally of whether people have it or not when they make these preflop bets that look so much like AA or KK.
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:51 PM
psyduck psyduck is offline
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Default Re: $22 - AKos after min-reraise + MANY callers

all in butter fingers.
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Old 10-24-2005, 11:59 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: $22 - AKos after min-reraise + MANY callers

I think I'd like to know what:

itchyfinger is calling with. That's a very very strange cold call.

One thing not being addressed here, is that with this many callers, there's a good chance all of your aces are out/gone. And you might be drawing to at most 3 outs. Perhaps we give 1.5 outs for each A and K. Of course, there's always the chance you flop a straight.

Given that assessment, and the fact, if you hit your K, you're not guaranteed to be ahead, I think folding here is fine.
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Old 10-25-2005, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: $22 - AKos after min-reraise + MANY callers

Yea, I mentioned before that some of your outs are probably out there, but you're getting incredibly sweet odds man. That's why I just call.
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