Call this river with 88?

grjr · #1 08-31-2005, 06:50 PM

No reads on anyone.

I'd like to get a concensus on what everyone would do on the river. If you don't like the turn call let me know too.

Cryptologic 1.00/2.00 Hold'em (10 handed) link

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, Villain calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 folds, UTG calls, Villain calls.

Flop: (9.00 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Villain bets, Hero raises, SB folds, UTG folds, Villain calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets, Villain raises, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain bets, Hero???

DontRaisePlz · #2 08-31-2005, 06:54 PM

Fold the turn. Since you didn't, call the river and hope for a semibluff.

gopnik · #3 08-31-2005, 07:03 PM

I fold the turn.

milesdyson · #4 08-31-2005, 07:08 PM

yeah i need a read to not fold that turn.

@bsolute_luck · #5 08-31-2005, 07:13 PM

i guess it depends on what you thought he had on the flop. anyone check behind on that turn and call the river?

milesdyson · #6 08-31-2005, 07:20 PM

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i guess it depends on what you thought he had on the flop. anyone check behind on that turn and call the river?

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explain why you would consider not betting the turn on such a board after the flop action.

VoraciousReader · #7 08-31-2005, 07:39 PM

I think the turn is the decision point. If I'm calling the turn, I'm calling a non-heart river.

I don't know the cryptos at all...is Villain likely sophisticated enough to check-raise a semibluff or even a stone bluff? If I'm playing .50/1 at Party I probably fold here.

But if Villain is known to be tricky I call down.

grjr · #8 08-31-2005, 07:42 PM

Hero has only played 10 hands at this table and villain is unknown previously. This is the only hand Villain has played so far.

Redd · #9 08-31-2005, 07:46 PM

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i guess it depends on what you thought he had on the flop. anyone check behind on that turn and call the river?

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I really don't like giving a free card to any 9, T, J, Q, K, A, or [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] out there.

Shillx · #10 08-31-2005, 08:04 PM

Yeah the river is an auto call. Calling the turn check/raise and folding the river UI is terrible poker. Calling the turn check/raise and river bet is questionable poker but nowhere near as bad as if you fold on this river card.

I would fold to the turn check/raise.

Brad