Poker is still gambling.

nate_king1 · #1 08-06-2005, 03:36 PM

I just read a post about some member having a 25% ROI at the 109s. Give me a f... break, do you really think you aren't luckboxing? I truly believe that somepoeple are just luckbox than others. Anybody can have luck for just a 1000s SNGs.

So please don't give me some made up number, that isn't even possible.

pearljam · #2 08-06-2005, 03:45 PM

It's true some people run luckier the others for what seems like very long periods of time. But seeing other people worse then you succeed is no excuse to feel sorry for yourself, play long enough and stick with it and things will even out.

TomHimself · #3 08-06-2005, 04:02 PM

jon462 · #4 08-06-2005, 04:04 PM

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I just read a post about some member having a 25% ROI at the 109s. Give me a f... break, do you really think you aren't luckboxing? I truly believe that somepoeple are just luckbox than others. Anybody can have luck for just a 1000s SNGs.

So please don't give me some made up number, that isn't even possible.

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maybe you just suck. 25% roi at the 100s seems kinda low too me [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

brimstone1 · #5 08-06-2005, 04:28 PM

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I just read a post about some member having a 25% ROI at the 109s. Give me a f... break, do you really think you aren't luckboxing? I truly believe that somepoeple are just luckbox than others. Anybody can have luck for just a 1000s SNGs.

So please don't give me some made up number, that isn't even possible.

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I'm fairly sure this thread doesn't even deserve a response, but I think that in itself is the reason why you haven't been improving your post quality. People don't find this sort of unecessary ranting worth their time.

There is absolutely no reason for this thread. It doesn't set grounds for any sort of debate, poker-related discussion, or even a laugh. ROI has been discussed countless times on the forums, and the FAQ clearly states this fact, even giving the reasonable stats achievable at certain levels.

I'm not a veteran even by a mile compared to the elite team of posters we have here on the forums, but even I can probably speak for the whole forum when I say please try to think before you post and reply.

Your nickname has attracted my attention because you seem to be posting in a lot of threads, usually with nothing to add or contribute of substance.

While I'm sure we all welcome the rush of new members we've had in the past ~1 month, with every posted thread like this one, I fear we'll loose the aforementioned elite team of posters who have helped so many people improve their game.

If you truly believe you are a poker player of great caliber, who can decide who can and cannot attain a ROI on a given level, I'm sure you will understand the "long term" implications of your post, and the likes.

Contribute by never posting such utterly useless "shouts", and talking more about actual play, strategy, etc.

Don't be fooled by the recent rise in number of posts about non-poker related things either; Those people contribute 100 times more than they talk about other things.

pearljam · #6 08-06-2005, 04:34 PM

And yet im lucky to get more then 1 reply to any well thought out post asking for help on a specific hand wile this post already has 5 responces.

freemoney · #7 08-06-2005, 04:41 PM

its actually closer to 29% but people dont believe so i just say 25%, i have absolutely no doubt that 25% is doable at the 100s in the long run maybe not by me but def possible.

Uppercut · #8 08-06-2005, 05:02 PM

Hey Nate: You might want to fix the typo in your location. Then maybe you'll start playing better at the 11s.

tigerite · #9 08-06-2005, 05:08 PM

Well from my experience so far of the $33's I'd say they are very beatable.

Oh, I played ilya earlier in a $20 as well, and knocked him out. Oops. Sorry [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I called his 5bb push from CO or so with junk, Q8o, when I was in BB with loads behind. I sucked out on his K4s.

nate_king1 · #10 08-06-2005, 06:33 PM

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its actually closer to 29% but people dont believe so i just say 25%, i have absolutely no doubt that 25% is doable at the 100s in the long run maybe not by me but def possible.

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Its kind of hard to believe that you make more per tourney, than ZeeJustin at the 215s. I'm not saying ZeeJustin owns or anything, but he differently is a good player.

I just remember seeing a SNGs Stats thread that looked absolutely fake. 115% ROI at the 33s, etc. Yet he has a lot of posts and I do believe that when he responses people take his advice seriously..

I'm just sick of people saying stuff.."Going Pro" only after $3K in totaly poker profit!! WOWOWA