Gary Sheffield, future HOF'er?

[Dead]

The guy has a career 3.79 era, and he's already almost 30. A 3.79 era as a reliever is nothing to brag about.

2001 25 BAL AL 2 4 61 0 0 0 9 2 53.0 47 31 25 6 30 54 2 0 237 4.25 4.21 99
2002 26 BAL AL 2 1 67 0 0 0 13 1 57.7 51 31 30 7 33 56 4 4 252 4.68 4.38 9

Neither are those years. He had one good year last year, but even that year wasn't nearly as good as Mo's.

And your sample size is way too small.

[Dead]

Look at this [censored]:

Mo:

10 Lg Div Series 7-3 25 0 0.23 2-0 13 0 0 39.0 16 1 3 27
7 Lg Champ Series 6-1 25 0 0.93 4-0 10 0 0 38.7 28 4 5 29
6 World Series 4-2 20 0 1.16 2-1 9 0 0 31.0 24 4 6 29
23 Postseason Ser 17-6 70 0 0.75 8-1 32 0 0 108.7 68 9 14 85

2.43 career ERA.

He's allowed 9 runs in 108 innings in the postseason. And the BEST teams play in the postseason, the top 4 from each league.

Mo has had a better career than every other closer in the game. And it's NOT CLOSE.

[tbach24]

He was nasty last season and that is because he fixed his control. Look at the BB/9 over the past 3 seasons (before this one which is <3 BB/9)

2002: 5.12
2003: 4.86
2004: 3.6

His control has improved drastically, and with it, his ability to beat batters has.

[Dead]

You're just being foolish.

Mo is better than BJ Ryan. It's not close. Look above.

[tbach24]

There is no question that Mo has had a better career and probably the best of any RP. But his control is off. 4.81 BB/9 this year, when in the past seasons he's been at <3. It is very important for Mo to have good control because he isn't much of a K pitcher for a closer, so that's why his numbers are faulty.

[Dead]

He's toned it down in his past couple of outings.

The BB/9 will fall down to his normal range as the season progresses.

And you don't think Mo is a K pitcher? Mo strikes out the side in the 9th more often than you think.

But here is the real Yankee pitching story: Mike Mussina. Everyone on here said that he sucks and that he is done. Meanwhile, Mike is sitting pretty with a 3.46 ERA and a record of 4-2, proving that last year was an anomaly.

[tbach24]

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He's toned it down in his past couple of outings.

The BB/9 will fall down to his normal range as the season progresses.

And you don't think Mo is a K pitcher? Mo strikes out the side in the 9th more often than you think.

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Last two seasons he's gone <1 K/IP. He's actually only been over it 2x in his career. People will make contact vs. him, but it won't be good.

[Dead]

Mo doesn't need to be a K pitcher anyway because 90% of the time when someone hits the cutter, it's either going to be a pop up or a soft grounder.

Righties are only batting .111 against Mo this year.

[Jack of Arcades]

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Sheff's range in right isn't great, but he's got a great arm. Plus he hits for better average than a lot of sluggers.

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Range is worth a lot more than arm. Manny's got a pretty good arm, too. Both are really bad in the field. I'm talking about 20 runs below average bad.

[Dead]

They make up for it with their offense. How does Vlad's range compare?