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11-19-2004, 11:40 PM
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Re: Statzzzzzzzzzzz
Are you 4-tabling? Because Byron is 4 tabling, and I was playing at least 4 tables in my set of 400, that's what I was referring to. I would agree that you can do better than 25% if you are playing 1-2 tables.
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11-20-2004, 02:09 AM
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Re: Question for eastbay
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How much of your ROI would you attribute to game selection (incl. choosing what time of day/day of week to play as well as watching out for strong players)? [/ QUOTE ] Re: strong players, the answer is easy: zero, or at most, negligible. There are two or three players that I see often enough that I might skip a SnG if I see them, but that's very, very rare. Maybe once a week. As for time of day... hmm. Good question. I don't know the answer because my playing times have been fairly consistent throughout my poker history. I play US west coast evenings, anywhere from between 6 pm and 1 or 2 am. I think that's pretty good "game selection", as far as catching the overpaid, undereducated US populace at their drunken heights. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] (Hey, I'm an American, too. It's just the truth.) eastbay
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#14
11-20-2004, 02:10 AM
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Re: Statzzzzzzzzzzz
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Are you 4-tabling? Because Byron is 4 tabling, and I was playing at least 4 tables in my set of 400, that's what I was referring to. I would agree that you can do better than 25% if you are playing 1-2 tables. Irieguy [/ QUOTE ] Point taken. Most of that is 2 or 3-tabling. Lately I have been 4-tabling. Jury is still out. eastbay
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11-21-2004, 06:58 AM
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Re: Statzzzzzzzzzzz
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03-02-2005, 10:58 AM
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Re: Statzzzzzzzzzzz
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[ QUOTE ] Well, I've played 400 $55 SNGs and my ROI is 19%. I agree with Aleo on just about everything he said, and would go so far as to say that 25%+ ROI at that level is not sustainable. [/ QUOTE ] Not true. I'm lifetime 26%, and that includes each and every game I've played at $55, including learning periods, etc. My last 500 or so I am closer to 35%. eastbay [/ QUOTE ] The numbers that I have seen posted lately are telling me that I need to take a seriously look at the way I am playing. My ROI is 20% over about 500 $22 SNGs. I always play four tables and I play a lot during the non-peak hours (east coast weekdays including mornings). I guess I need to pick better times to play and figure out some leaks. -d1sterbd
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#19
03-02-2005, 11:59 AM
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Re: Question for eastbay
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[ QUOTE ] How much of your ROI would you attribute to game selection (incl. choosing what time of day/day of week to play as well as watching out for strong players)? [/ QUOTE ] Re: strong players, the answer is easy: zero, or at most, negligible. There are two or three players that I see often enough that I might skip a SnG if I see them, but that's very, very rare. Maybe once a week. As for time of day... hmm. Good question. I don't know the answer because my playing times have been fairly consistent throughout my poker history. I play US west coast evenings, anywhere from between 6 pm and 1 or 2 am. I think that's pretty good "game selection", as far as catching the overpaid, undereducated US populace at their drunken heights. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] (Hey, I'm an American, too. It's just the truth.) eastbay [/ QUOTE ] I agree that table selection at 55's is not a very significant variable. There are still too many players at that level to make much of an effort at table selection. I think the fact that you play only prime hours probably has a much bigger impact in being able to maintain a high ROI than the difference in 2 tabling or 4 tabling. I just passed 1500 55's and my stats show 24.5% ROI in 336 in your time window and 15.3% ROI over 1166 at other times. My total is 17.4% over 1502. Granted, my sample over the prime time window is too small to conclude anything, but I find the difference to be quite significant. Perhaps Irie's assertion that 25%+ ROI is not sustainable may be true for the full time player grinding it out with the other full-timers during the day. I know I started 4 tabling on Jan 21 when my 20" LCD arrived. I am actually better 4 tabling than I was 2 tabling with overlap. 18.7% over 578 4 tabling and 16.5% over 924 2 tabling. Again, the samples are too small, but I find them interesting. I personally do not believe 4 tabling will have any negative impact on my ROI long term. For me personally, I find 4 tabling also keeps me emotionally centered. It is much easier to shake off bad beats and prevent a negative mindset. I will give a 2000 55's update as I've decided not to move up as yet.
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#20
03-02-2005, 12:56 PM
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Re: Statzzzzzzzzzzz
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I'm nervous of the $109s from what some other posters have said here about dramatic drops in ROI and also the increased varience. I'm playing off a $5k roll (with emergency back up money in bank) and I need to take a minimum $3k a month out. I think I'd want a 10k roll before I take a serious stab at them. The extra rake back is a factor but ideally I want to save that up and take the GF on a nice holiday next year. It seems mad to think that you can make in excess of $3k a month off a $5k roll but that's what's so great about sngs. [/ QUOTE ] If $5,000 is all you have and you are living off it I would stick with the $50+5s, seriously maximising income should not be your main objective here. Just my opinion take it as you will. I bought one of those Dell 20" monitors as well, they are the dogs. Good luck man. Mack
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