Working on more aggression, I think I might have gone too far

[OilMan]

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You played correctly, your opponent played poorly here.

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Just curious, what mistakes did his opponent make? The only mistake I can see (by his opponent) is not capping the turn or raising the river.

If anything, his opponents errors saved Hero some money. Am I looking at this the right way.

Thanks

[ThunderAces]

First off, has everyone gone mad?
Who taught you all to play this kinda crap in the small blind. Throw this away PF. The half bet don't seem much but on top of that your 1st to act everytime. Get pokertracker and monitor these type of hands in the SB and see all the money your leaking.
Just trying to help you plug this hole. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[ThunderAces]

No you are lookin at this quite wrong.
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The only mistake I can see (by his opponent) is not capping the turn or raising the river.

If missing atleast 2 BB raises isn't a big enough mistake I dunno what is.

[Wahoo91]

First off, has everyone gone mad?
Who taught you all to play this kinda crap in the small blind. Throw this away PF. The half bet don't seem much but on top of that your 1st to act everytime. Get pokertracker and monitor these type of hands in the SB and see all the money your leaking.

Wow-
Unfortunately you are the one way off base. This is actually a decent hand outta the SB (in a 1/2 bet format).

[Entity]

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First off, has everyone gone mad?
Who taught you all to play this kinda crap in the small blind. Throw this away PF. The half bet don't seem much but on top of that your 1st to act everytime. Get pokertracker and monitor these type of hands in the SB and see all the money your leaking.
Just trying to help you plug this hole. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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This is NOT a hole. Ed Miller and many noted others recommend completing with any two in the small blind, especially in a 1/2 structure.

Seriously, you should reconsider. If you aren't completing hands like this in the SB, it's probably a much larger leak for you.

Any Two Suited in the SB.

[Entity]

To quote Ed:

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Really any two suited in the small blind. But 32% is almost certainly too many hands. If you continue to play 32% of your hands, post more of your marginal preflop plays so I can see what I agree with.

FWIW, when I play online (rarely), my flops seen is in the 22-24% range IIRC.

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[Wahoo91]

Just curious, what mistakes did his opponent make? The only mistake I can see (by his opponent) is not capping the turn or raising the river.

These are HUGE HUGE HUGE errors!

Sets like this on a terrible board with a bettor like the Hero in this case do not come along very often. You MUST get every possible cent into the pot. Missing out on all those BB are the equivalent of throwing away 3-4 hours of work.


his opponents errors saved Hero some money.

This is true and the very reason why this play was so terrible from the standpoint of the villian.

[ThunderAces]

Based on what theory. This is a very standard PF fold. Come on. Continue to play these hands, you'll lose with them. They are difficult hands to play, make many many second best hands and to top it off more difficult to play from the SB. Good luck with it though.
Remember I'm only trying to HELP.

[Wahoo91]

Based on what theory. This is a very standard PF fold. Come on.

See Entity's reply above. Every noted poker authority in the world completes this hand out of the SB. In fact, its not even close. This is actually a very good hand out of the SB.

I smile every time I get a hand like this in the SB as hands like this have a chance to win some serious money for a 1/2 bet investment in a multi-way pot. The implied odds are astronomical.

I understand you are trying to help. Entity and I are trying to help YOU.

[helpmeout]

The reason why you call is because you have almost 12% of hitting a flush draw and about 3.5% of hitting 2 pair or better on the flop not because Ed Miller or some other pro said you should.

You are paying 1/8th of the pot (12.5%) but your potential for a good hand is ~15.5%. If it is likely that BB will raise then you should fold.

Post flop you should probably check and fold to a bet unless you have a good read on your opponent. If there was one of your suit then I'd call a bet on the flop. With a better kicker a bet and call is fine.