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Old 11-16-2005, 02:00 PM
fathertime fathertime is offline
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Default overbet on flop in an unraised pot

I'm clear on what underbets on flop typically are. But I'm not clear on what a big overbet on a non-drawing board from someone not playing a laggy or maniacal game means.

Hand in question:

50 nl
Villain 50
Hero 150

Hero has kjs in the bb. Button, sb, and bb see a flop of

7j2r. Pot is 1.5 and villain in sb bets 6. Hero in bb is

confused.
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: overbet on flop in an unraised pot

If he's a normal player I'd fold. No point in getting involved in a hand where he may have a monster for $1.50.
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:05 PM
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Default Re: overbet on flop in an unraised pot

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If he's a normal player I'd fold. No point in getting involved in a hand where he may have a monster for $1.50.

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I agree.

I think even most donks understand that risking $6 to win $1.50 is a very silly bluff in this spot.

However, the strange paradox is that the reason the overbet can work so well is because we see overbets and instinctively think "wow, that must be a bluff, there's no way he thinks I'm calling that!"
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: overbet on flop in an unraised pot

The guy is a soild player?

The only time I can recall myself playing like this is when I have AA,KK and slowplay so I dont win PF then the flop comes and I am dissapoined i let the BB get a free shot to draw out so I bet big and take it down there, which is kinda dumb but I recall doing it.
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Old 11-16-2005, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: overbet on flop in an unraised pot

I'm not so interested in whether I should fold, call, or raise in this situation, but rather what overbets in unraised pots by non maniacal or laggy players mean.

A small underbet in a pot by a weak player often means:
1. draw
2. weak pair
A small underbet in a pot by a different type player may mean:
1 please raise me

And so--any thoughts on what this type of overbet from this type of player may mean?
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