6-max: Calling Preflop raise with weak offsuit?

#1 12-05-2005, 02:35 PM

After reading Ed's article on trying 6-max games, I thought I'd give it a go. I'm trying to get a handle on preflop strategy with less players. On a full ring, I'm pretty tight, following the recommendations in SSHE. Adjustments I made for 6-max tables were to play any ace and sometimes any king with a somewhat decent (7 or higher kicker). I would also loosen my preflop raising conditions (e.g. KTo).

One hand I have a question on is the following. In SSHE, Ed states that many suited cards in the big blind are playable against a preflop raise, given two or more limpers. I loosened this up a bit, and in the following hand there was a caller, raiser, and me. I called with a weak suited hand, but I feel the pot odds were compelling. Further, I suspect I might have called with this hand even against a steal attempt. Am I overadjusting and playing too loose in these short-handed situations?

The Reason I ask is someone made a somewhat snide comment against my call, otherwise I wouldn't have thought anything of it....

P.S., I was going to check raise on the flop, but the PF raiser didn't bite.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls,1 fold[/i], Button raises,1 fold[/i], Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: (4.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

KNOCKAHOMA · #2 12-05-2005, 02:50 PM

Fold pre-flop!!

#3 12-05-2005, 05:11 PM

Sorry, title was inaccurate.

As a follow-up, what would be the weakest suited hand you would play in this (6-max) situation?

Also, In a FULL ring game with a raiser and two limpers, would this suited hand be to weak too call a single raise in the BB?

Scotch78 · #4 12-05-2005, 05:17 PM

This isn't even close pre-flop, so yes, I do think you are over compensating. JTs is probably the lowest I'd go in this case. If you were in position to trap the caller with a check-raise, then I'd loosen up to J9s and T9s. Also, you still need to check-raise this flop.

Scott

TheHip41 · #5 12-05-2005, 06:23 PM

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After reading Ed's article on trying 6-max games, I thought I'd give it a go. I'm trying to get a handle on preflop strategy with less players. On a full ring, I'm pretty tight, following the recommendations in SSHE. Adjustments I made for 6-max tables were to play any ace and sometimes any king with a somewhat decent (7 or higher kicker). I would also loosen my preflop raising conditions (e.g. KTo).

One hand I have a question on is the following. In SSHE, Ed states that many suited cards in the big blind are playable against a preflop raise, given two or more limpers. I loosened this up a bit, and in the following hand there was a caller, raiser, and me. I called with a weak suited hand, but I feel the pot odds were compelling. Further, I suspect I might have called with this hand even against a steal attempt. Am I overadjusting and playing too loose in these short-handed situations?

The Reason I ask is someone made a somewhat snide comment against my call, otherwise I wouldn't have thought anything of it....

P.S., I was going to check raise on the flop, but the PF raiser didn't bite.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls,1 fold[/i], Button raises,1 fold[/i], Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: (4.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

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and this is why 6-max games are so good. people think, hey, there's only 6 people here, I have to play ever hand [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]