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Old 11-02-2005, 02:55 PM
ilya ilya is offline
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Default Top set on very scary turn & river

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t2145)
SB (t1770)
BB (t4825)
Hero (t4235)
UTG+1 (t6250)
MP1 (t1925)
MP2 (t1620)
CO (t3088)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls t100, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t250) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t800</font>, BB calls t600.

Turn: (t1850) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1850) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t500</font>

Final Pot: t2850


Push the turn? Very clear?

On the river, push or muck? I think just calling sucks.
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Old 11-02-2005, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: Top set on very scary turn & river

i don't push the turn, but i bet it for sure. And i don't really like a river push, i think i just call.
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Top set on very scary turn & river

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i don't push the turn, but i bet it for sure. And i don't really like a river push, i think i just call.

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That's how I'd play it.
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:26 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: Top set on very scary turn & river

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i don't push the turn, but i bet it for sure. And i don't really like a river push, i think i just call.

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looks good.
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: Top set on very scary turn & river

checking the turn hurts my eyes.
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:46 PM
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Default A question for the turn bettors

So, pot is 1850 &amp; my stack is 3300. I presume you guys are willing to stack off if he check-raises? What if he flat-calls &amp; pushes brick river?
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Old 11-02-2005, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: A question for the turn bettors

nah i'm probably going to the felt. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

could just have the Ad... or maybe some stupid two pair. And you're still like 25% when he has the flush.

pot will be too tempting to fold, me thinks.
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Old 11-02-2005, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: Top set on very scary turn & river

He could bet with anything on the river here since you checked the turn and it's really hard for you to call now with 4 diamonds on the board. I would have bet the turn here 100% of times.
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Old 11-02-2005, 04:41 PM
John W John W is offline
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Default Re: Top set on very scary turn & river

When you are beat your beat. Fold
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Old 11-02-2005, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: Top set on very scary turn & river

I agree with betting the turn. It sucks to call a check/raise here, but I think your hand is good here way too often to not bet.

Just call the river, pushing is interesting, but guys just aren't laying down diamonds here enough because they are calling stations, even though a push looks exactly like a big diamond.

Playing against calling stations is hard when they make better hands than you.
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