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Old 12-15-2005, 07:09 AM
Piers Piers is offline
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and he is compassionate in the same manner that humans are compassionate...


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You can of course make this assumption if you want, but do you really think it will lead to any insightful results?

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If it would be more pleasurable to observe earth in a state of paradise, and all the above statements are true, then...


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Are you sure that instead of “he is compassionate in the same manner that humans are compassionate...” you don’t instead mean, “he is compassionate in the same manner that I mistakenly believe I am”

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...either God isn't omnipotent, or there's some reason that things are the way they are, rather than being in a state of paradise.

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“there's some reason that things are the way they are” <– My money’s on this option.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:01 PM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Default Re: More or less pleasurable?

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and he is compassionate in the same manner that humans are compassionate...


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You can of course make this assumption if you want, but do you really think it will lead to any insightful results?


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Uh... I don't know.

You start with some assumptions, then make some conclusions. Then look at the conclusions and look at the assumptions again to determine if they're all correct (this is a little easier than looking merely at the assumptions to determine if they're correct, sometimes). Eventually you have some sort of axiom system where all of your assumptions can be seen to be correct, from which all conclusions are based, or something like that, right?

So, I guess this is some sort of completely retarded step in that direction.

The process, as I've described it, is iterative, and thus, it may not initially yield meaningful results.
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Old 12-15-2005, 07:05 PM
DavidC DavidC is offline
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Are you sure that instead of “he is compassionate in the same manner that humans are compassionate...” you don’t instead mean, “he is compassionate in the same manner that I mistakenly believe I am”


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Wow.

Uh... again, I am completely baffled by what you have said.

Are you going somewhere with this?

Edit: Okay, I think I get it. Your answer is "Yes." But you've refused to discuss it, as I requested. In that case, you may sod off.
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