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#21
11-16-2005, 01:00 PM
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Re: Very taboo. What do I do?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 4 - story to follow regarding a similar situation. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize that the entire table had the right (in many/most casinos) to see his hand? [/ QUOTE ] But not the right to grab the cards. You ask the dealer to expose them. Everyone seems to have been wrong in this woeful tale. [/ QUOTE ] I agree totally. But most dealers would just muck them and ignore a request to see them. A good dealer, I believe, would expose them on his own, telling the player, "Sir, if you show one player, you must show all." 
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#22
11-16-2005, 01:55 PM
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Re: Very taboo. What do I do?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 4 - story to follow regarding a similar situation. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize that the entire table had the right (in many/most casinos) to see his hand? [/ QUOTE ] But not the right to grab the cards. You ask the dealer to expose them. Everyone seems to have been wrong in this woeful tale. [/ QUOTE ] I agree totally. But most dealers would just muck them and ignore a request to see them. A good dealer, I believe, would expose them on his own, telling the player, "Sir, if you show one player, you must show all." [/ QUOTE ] Yes, everyone had the right to see the cards. I DO understand that. No, she didn't have the right to grab them anyhow. Totally crossed the line. I'm curious what others have to say about your claim that a "good dealer would show them and inform the player of the show one show all rule." My limited experience is that this rule is enforced only if someone else asks to see the cards. Everyone at the table was wrong. FishNChips
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#23
11-16-2005, 02:55 PM
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Re: Very taboo. What do I do?
You call the floor before your second card even hits the table as soon as he grabs it. That kind of bullcrap is NOT to be tolerated, friendly game or not. Last guy who tried that crap in my game was JIMMY HOFFA.
Not only do you call the floor and INSIST on some sort of "action" (which will probably be just a warning, but still you INSIST on a "ruling"), but you make it INCREDIBLY FRIGGIN' CLEAR that the next time that happens you WON'T "be so nice about it." That crap just don't fly PUNK, AND LET'S NOT FORGET IT NEXT TIME JERKOFF.... al
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#24
11-16-2005, 02:58 PM
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Re: Very taboo. What do I do?
In a showdown, both cards must be shown faceup on the table to have ANY claim to the pot. This is so someone can't conceal that they have a fouled hand (like A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]). This has nothing to do with the OP however...in the event of an uncalled bet, the winner can choose to not show, show both or show one if he'd like. If house rules specify that someone who was uncalled on the river must show both cards if they show one then, IMHO, those house rules blow.
Jeff
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#25
11-16-2005, 03:03 PM
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Re: Very taboo. What do I do?
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But most dealers would just muck them and ignore a request to see them. A good dealer, I believe, would expose them on his own, telling the player, "Sir, if you show one player, you must show all." [/ QUOTE ] No, they wouldn't. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the gentleman made a bet that was uncalled and chose to show one card. In no way does that entitle someone to see his other card. This is FOR SURE not the rule in Atlantic City cardrooms and I don't believe it is common to have a show one, show both rule in the event of someone winning with an uncalled bet. Places that have this rule shouldn't, imo. Jeff
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#26
11-16-2005, 03:05 PM
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Re: Very taboo. What do I do?
Stop showing people a card?
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#27
11-16-2005, 03:08 PM
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Re: Very taboo. What do I do?
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[ QUOTE ] But most dealers would just muck them and ignore a request to see them. A good dealer, I believe, would expose them on his own, telling the player, "Sir, if you show one player, you must show all." [/ QUOTE ] No, they wouldn't. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but the gentleman made a bet that was uncalled and chose to show one card. In no way does that entitle someone to see his other card. This is FOR SURE not the rule in Atlantic City cardrooms and I don't believe it is common to have a show one, show both rule in the event of someone winning with an uncalled bet. Places that have this rule shouldn't, imo. Jeff [/ QUOTE ] Trace back and you will see I am talking about a different story, where: He shows his cards to the fat lady to his left. and that I am talking about the nearly universal "Show one player, show all players" rule, not "Show one card, show both cards".
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#29
11-16-2005, 03:19 PM
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Re: Very taboo. What do I do?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 4 - story to follow regarding a similar situation. [/ QUOTE ] You do realize that the entire table had the right (in many/most casinos) to see his hand? [/ QUOTE ] But not the right to grab the cards. You ask the dealer to expose them. Everyone seems to have been wrong in this woeful tale. [/ QUOTE ] I agree totally. But most dealers would just muck them and ignore a request to see them. A good dealer, I believe, would expose them on his own, telling the player, "Sir, if you show one player, you must show all." [/ QUOTE ] No way should a dealer do this. If a player asks they are entitled to see them, but that does not mean a dealer should show them with no request being made.
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#30
11-16-2005, 03:20 PM
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Re: Very taboo. What do I do?
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You're calling somebody a tool? I hope that's not your picture. LOL [/ QUOTE ] It is absolutely my picture and this reply confirms that my read on you is correct. Tool Tactic #1 be an ass and only show one card. Tool Tactic #2 when WRONG make a personal attack against the other party. Yes, I know they show one card on TV but that doesn't make it good manners. I bet you have sunglasses and a hoodie and your next post will probably mention my weight or that I wear eyeglasses.
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