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12-09-2003, 04:07 PM
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can i fold?
loose marginal 10-20 'know what your holding'.
pretty cut and dry, nothing sensational, so basically i will just focus here on my question. i'm on the button with AQs and flop QJXr. the only player to call my flop bet is the SB. i put him on J7, and am fairly confident about this read. he could have J8 as well. he knows i know what he's holding, and i know he knows i know. what's his tell? middle pair, he exhibits one gold tooth; top pair two gold teeth. i look left. he has middle pair and.......weak kicker. so i know he will fold on the river, and am planning on betting out on the river to fold. pretty basic. the turn; J [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img].....you guessed it [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] i bet out angrily and get check-raised. can i fold? i'm not getting the odds to spike. 
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12-09-2003, 04:40 PM
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Re: can i fold?
i put him on J7, and am fairly confident about this read. he could have J8 as well. he knows i know what he's holding, and i know he knows i know. . . the turn; J . . . i bet out angrily"
Can't be. If you know he has J7 or J8 why bet the turn? Anyway, simple matter of math here. If you're 100% sure he has a jack, and you're not getting odds to spike, you can fold. If you're less than 100% sure, adjust your thinking correspondingly. Wouldn't this have been a great spot to check the turn? A) if he has a jack you save money; B) if he doesn't have a jack he might be tempted to bluff the river since you opened from the button and would bet just about any flop; and C) there's only one rank of overcard to your pair that can hurt you on the river. I am curious, though, as to how he "exhibits" the gilded teethage. I have visions of him taking them out and putting them, talismanically, on top of his cards.
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