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Old 11-15-2005, 10:13 PM
redsoxsox redsoxsox is offline
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Default Re: Online pros: How many STTs per day?

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Let me get this straight. You don't know how to calculate how many SNGs you need to play to make X per month given an ROI of Y. You've never really bothered to calculate your ROI, but you know you can beat the 215's 10 at a time. Now you are ready to drop $2000+ per set, just tell me how many to play....

Man, if your looking for a way to blow your bankroll I can think of a million more enjoyable ways to do it, but 10-tabling the 215's will be very efficient if your pressed for time.

I'm sure the 215 guys who are sharpening their knives right now will be pissed that anybody would tell you not to dive right in.

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Just because he doesnt keep exact stats of his Roi doesnt mean hes not a good player.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: Online pros: How many STTs per day?

Never really saw an answer, so I'll toss one in..

From FAQ: "215s - 7% ROI" expected for solid multitable performance.

ROI*(BuyIn) = expected return per game = epg
Annual/epg = games required for annual = G/yr
then divide that by 52 (or 50, for a couple weeks off) for a games/week or whatever, so

7%*215 = 15.5 epg
100,000/15.5 = 6645 games/yr
6645/50 = 133 games/week

or if you're pessimistic (like me):
5% ROI => 186 g/wk
3% ROI => 310 g/wk
So, 50/day should be enough.
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but, without knowing the ROI, who knows. Despite the shape of the curve defined by those 3 points, playing infinite games will yield no profit from negative ROI.
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:17 PM
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Default Re: Online pros: How many STTs per day?

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If I make one thread and it gets no responses, then I'll be able to take a hint and I won't post them anymore.

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Oh, I'm sure you'll get plenty of responses from this forum because...

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<font color="blue">...we, as a collective, have made a decision to suck, replying over and over again to the crappiest posts... </font>

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FWIW you're asking us to tell you how many SNG you should play is kind of a catch 22. You asked us while not providing any information other than you've played 215s profitably before (multitabling?, how many games?, what ROI?, what $/hour?, what are your time constraints?, personal preferences?) All of those are questions that need to be answered to make an informed decision. However, if you can provide us all that info, you can do the calculation yourself. Hence the catch 22, and why "How many SNGs should I play per day" posts pretty useless.

Basically, play as many SNGs as you can play profitably while not being able to keep up with your prerequisites (one prerequisite being keeping your sanity).
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:17 PM
Apathy Apathy is offline
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Default Re: Online pros: How many STTs per day?

8 tabling low double digits is doable longterm, but when planning for the future always use a signifigantly lower number to account for tilt fatigue etc.

This includes using a lower number for your estimate of # games/ week.


To the poster in this thread that said that you should never be playing less then 1k stts a month, I would like to say that I rarely play 1k stts a month and I play for a living and do just fine.

Playing well when you do and using your great amount of free time to live your life the way you want and enjoy yourself is what its all about.
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Old 11-16-2005, 07:19 PM
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Playing well when you do and using your great amount of free time to live your life the way you want and enjoy yourself is what its all about.

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amen
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: Online pros: How many STTs per day?

sorry if this is a basic question, but when calculating ROI do you include the rake lost? And if so, then do you also calculate any rakeback? I think 30/day(210 per week) is easily attainable without burning out at all.
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Old 11-16-2005, 11:59 PM
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Default Re: Online pros: How many STTs per day?

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To the poster in this thread that said that you should never be playing less then 1k stts a month, I would like to say that I rarely play 1k stts a month and I play for a living and do just fine.

Playing well when you do and using your great amount of free time to live your life the way you want and enjoy yourself is what its all about.

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I really wanted to have a good "chirp" for you right now but I'm writing an essay and your gambooling. All I can think of is stop being so lazy... [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]...yeh I got nothing just make sure you have your drinking hat on for this Saturday.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: Online pros: How many STTs per day?

Had a great first 1/2 month(I didn't quit my job until Nov. 15, so I only started keeping stats on the 16th). My November stats:

343 $215 STTs played
48 1st places
40 2nd places
48 3rd places
47 4th places
49 5th places
41 6th places
21 7th places
29 8th places
13 9th places
7 10th places

total buy ins: $73745
total cash out: $91200
results: + $17455
ROI: 23.67%

Days played: 12(went on vacations for Thanksgiving, so I missed 4 days of playing)
Winning days: 8
Losing days: 4
Best Day: +$5775
Worst Day: -$1290
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: Online pros: How many STTs per day?

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Had a great first 1/2 month(I didn't quit my job until Nov. 15, so I only started keeping stats on the 16th). My November stats:

343 $215 STTs played
48 1st places
40 2nd places
48 3rd places
47 4th places
49 5th places
41 6th places
21 7th places
29 8th places
13 9th places
7 10th places

total buy ins: $73745
total cash out: $91200
results: + $17455
ROI: 23.67%

Days played: 12(went on vacations for Thanksgiving, so I missed 4 days of playing)
Winning days: 8
Losing days: 4
Best Day: +$5775
Worst Day: -$1290

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Damn....your last 343 games at the 215s are better than my ROI at the 33s. I want to make 17K in 12 days. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:44 PM
pooh74 pooh74 is offline
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Default Re: Online pros: How many STTs per day?

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Had a great first 1/2 month(I didn't quit my job until Nov. 15, so I only started keeping stats on the 16th). My November stats:

343 $215 STTs played
48 1st places
40 2nd places
48 3rd places
47 4th places
49 5th places
41 6th places
21 7th places
29 8th places
13 9th places
7 10th places

total buy ins: $73745
total cash out: $91200
results: + $17455
ROI: 23.67%

Days played: 12(went on vacations for Thanksgiving, so I missed 4 days of playing)
Winning days: 8
Losing days: 4
Best Day: +$5775
Worst Day: -$1290

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Damn....your last 343 games at the 215s are better than my ROI at the 33s. I want to make 17K in 12 days. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Seriously...very nice assani.
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