10/20 - A9s cold calling

[RyGreen18]

i 3bet this against these opponents. Remember, you have the button.

On the flop, I try to mix up raising the flop and the turn. But the reason you are waiting til the turn is because you are ahead a lot of the time and are getting value from it. I could even see capping this against certain opponents, is anyone else making this play? If you are consistantly folding to a 3-bet here you are missing a lot of pots. He could be 3betting a pair and a flush draw like A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], an overaggressive PP. Also, what is your table image right now? How much respect does this guy give your turn raise? My default play is to call down after he 3bets.

[joker122]

like stefan said, AF are misleading if you ignore vp$ip. with a vip of 60% he's seeing alot of flops with garbage hands so he can't be aggressive with those, and that decreases the AF. if you did an experiment and only played AA-TT for a few hours you could look at you AF for that span and it would be something like 7 or 8 probably.

[Jeff W]

Pre flop is fine. It's between 3-betting and cold calling.

I'd wait till the river to raise. I would never fold this hand.

[Danenania]

Hey Jeff, I agree with either waiting til the river to raise or raising on the flop, but a flop raise seems a bit better to me because a.) BB could have many 4-5 out hands and b.) I think it will often induce UTG to give extra action with a worse hand. If the flop were a little drier I think I'd like waiting better. Also this is secondary, or I guess tertiary, but I suppose we lose a bit less when behind a big hand by raising the flop versus the river. Thoughts on those points?

By the way, to the op: I'd 3-bet PF almost always unless the blinds were extremely loose.