Time to wave the white flag?

[marbles]

"How is the Jh the worst card to hit the board? It gives you two pair and adds 4 outs to a house to your hand. also remember with two opponents neither may have the flush. You also have 8 outs to the straight (six clean) to anyone trying to play top pair or a set. It seems you have some good drawing possibilities here."

It's a bad card because it creates a terrifying board (9TJQ with three hearts), while making your hand just good enough to not want to fold. There are NO straight draws, as a K or 8 would mean the board plays (provided no one has a heart).

[Bob T.]

I think a bet is automatic, after you get raised, then you can consider folding. What do they put you on right now, the coldcaller might have been calling with a jack, and the button might have bet a ten, a nine, or a jack. Neither one necessarily has either a queen or hearts.

That card has to be scary to anyone else who also doesn't have either of those holdings.

Off to see how much everyone disagrees with me.

[Bob T.]

I would probably checkraise or bet about an equal percentage of the time. Given your characterization of the button, I would checkraise more often.

[marbles]

"I would probably checkraise or bet about an equal percentage of the time. Given your characterization of the button, I would checkraise more often."

--That's what I was trying to say, only much more concise. It's definitely an opponent-dependent play.

[Louie Landale]

Didn't read the responses.

Lets pretend that Q didn't make the flush...

That's a pretty good card. You have no reason to suspect button has a Q, and since the other player didn't bet the flop you have no reason to suspect HE has a Queen; whereas both the opponents have reason to suspect YOU have a Queen.

I would bet without hesitation, and if called hope to check-it-around on the river.

But the Q DID make the flush. Yes, you have some problem here but I may bet tempted to bet it out depending on the opponents.

- Louie

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Because he's only marginally more likely to be ahead, would only have half as many outs, and has what looks like a made hand.