Stratosphere taking money from their dealers?

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That guy makeing the 190, 200 or whatever a shift is still making less than he would be dealing.

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Cry me a [censored] river. Omfg, poor him. Wait, I thought they have to accept the position of floorman when offered a promotion or turn it down. OH yes, that would be their own fault and they know what they are getting into. That's a pisspoor excuse. Simple, no one is forcing the players to tip me, you aren't forcing me to tip UPWARDS to well paid SALARIED employees!

And yes, I've tipped our floormen many times and they usually hand it back saying that they dont want to take anything from their dealers. If one finds me a chip for my collection, I give them a buck usually.

[Michael O'Malley]

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That guy makeing the 190, 200 or whatever a shift is still making less than he would be dealing.

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Cry me a [censored] river. Omfg, poor him.

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That’s what I usually say to the dealers that whine about tipping out.


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Wait, I thought they have to accept the position of floorman when offered a promotion or turn it down. OH yes, that would be their own fault and they know what they are getting into. That's a pisspoor excuse.

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No, it really isn’t. If dealers did not tip out floorpeople, there would be no qualified floor. Without qualified floor, you dealers would have no games to deal.

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Simple, no one is forcing the players to tip me, you aren't forcing me to tip UPWARDS to well paid SALARIED employees!

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I assume you work at one of the smaller rooms in town? Don’t ever expect to work in a “real” poker room with that attitude.

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And yes, I've tipped our floormen many times and they usually hand it back saying that they dont want to take anything from their dealers. If one finds me a chip for my collection, I give them a buck usually.

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That’s just plain weird. Do you deal at Circus Circus?
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I'm glad you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you deal? Do you floor? I don't know for sure but it sounds like you have no clue, and no I dont work at a "small" room in town.

My problem with this is that they decided to institute this rule as soon as the dealers starting making decent tips in the room.

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If dealers did not tip out floorpeople, there would be no qualified floor

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I have no idea what this means. If the floor get tipped, that will make them more qualified? That makes no sense. The good floors (usually) are good dealers that accepted a promotion to floor.

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That’s what I usually say to the dealers that whine about tipping out.


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If you even bothered to read the whole post, it had nothing to do with me crying about having to tip out. I was unhappy that another room is forcing them to tip out.

[Randy_Refeld]

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I'm glad you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you deal? Do you floor? I don't know for sure but it sounds like you have no clue, and no I dont work at a "small" room in town.


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Michael O'Malley is one of the most knowledgeable people in the industry today.

[Michael O'Malley]

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I'm glad you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you deal? Do you floor? I don't know for sure but it sounds like you have no clue, and no I dont work at a "small" room in town.

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You are right, I have “no clue”. What room do you work in?

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My problem with this is that they decided to institute this rule as soon as the dealers starting making decent tips in the room.

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That sounds like a pretty good time to make them tip out. After all, you wouldn’t want the dealers to have to tip out when they aren’t making “decent tips”.

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If dealers did not tip out floorpeople, there would be no qualified floor
I have no idea what this means. If the floor get tipped, that will make them more qualified? That makes no sense. The good floors (usually) are good dealers that accepted a promotion to floor.

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No good dealer would ever accept a “promotion” to Floorperson if they thought all dealers were like you and were going to stiff them. Do you have any idea what the salary is for a floorperson in this town?

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That’s what I usually say to the dealers that whine about tipping out.
If you even bothered to read the whole post, it had nothing to do with me crying about having to tip out. I was unhappy that another room is forcing them to tip out.

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Yes, I read the whole post, most noticeably the part where you said “Cry me a [censored] river. Omfg, poor him.”

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Who is Michael O'Malley?

And I've noticed this topic has turned into a "mine is bigger than yours" contest, so I will not be replying anymore as it just isn't worth my time.

[Michael O'Malley]

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Who is Michael O'Malley?

And I've noticed this topic has turned into a "mine is bigger than yours" contest, so I will not be replying anymore as it just isn't worth my time.

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That would be your best bet. Dealers that are unwilling to take care of the rest of the poker room staff dont last long in this business.

[Randy_Refeld]

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Who is Michael O'Malley?


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Here is a link.

http://www.rzitup.com/poker/poker.htm

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Alrighty now, everyone just calm the frigg down now.

Photoc FEELS the way he does. That's O-K. However, there has been a "little flamage" going on here from all sides. Obviously this is a highly charged issue (well no chit Capone! Nice grasp of the obvious!). It should be noted that Photoc DOESN'T have to personally tip ANYONE out, and therefore his OPINION cannot be considered to be one born of personal bitterness and sorrow for lost wages.

My PERSONAL feeling is that I DONT think "tipping out" floorpersons is good for poker. However, I do realize that this practice does exist, and is not that uncommon. Do I personally think it's destructive? Sure, particularly if it's excessive. $15 a day is quite excessive IN MY OPINION. $5 is not excessive, but I still don't like it. However, my opinion does not equal fact, at least not when I have had this FEW beers. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

It should also be noted that I think that tipping out chip runners and brushes (if they are not floorpersons) is pretty normal. I just personally feel that "floorpersons" should be in a different category. I have personally tipped chip runners many times and never felt bitter about it.

Keep in mind here that I am also a floorperson, and my opinion stems from having walked in the shoes of both sides. That doesn't make me right, at least not until I've had a few more beers! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I do think it's OK to take the side of the minority on this particular issue, and anyone that does so shouldn't get too much flak over it.

al

[Michael O'Malley]

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It should also be noted that I think that tipping out chip runners and brushes (if they are not floorpersons) is pretty normal. I just personally feel that "floorpersons" should be in a different category.

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I am shocked...SHOCKED! [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] I would honestly like to know why you think tipping out chiprunners is "ok and feels good", but you dont feel the same about floorpersons?