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Old 04-07-2005, 03:01 PM
Bill Smith Bill Smith is offline
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Default I catch my overcard... now what?

SB is a 73/20 LAGtard. Aggression is pretty high on all streets, especially on the river.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:02 PM
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Default Re: I catch my overcard... now what?

Looks good. Unfortunately, LAGtards can catch hands too.
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: I catch my overcard... now what?

i take the call down/bet the river if checked to line here.
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:05 PM
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Default Re: I catch my overcard... now what?

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i take the call down/bet the river if checked to line here.

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If he's as aggressive as Bill says, I think you have to find a raise somewhere with TPGK.
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:12 PM
philnewall philnewall is offline
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Default Re: I catch my overcard... now what?

Raise turn...what's the point in waiting for the river to raise a LAG?
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: I catch my overcard... now what?

Why?
On this board, double why?
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:21 PM
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Raise turn...what's the point in waiting for the river to raise a LAG?

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Because a LAG will likely continue betting on the river, so....

1) You extract 1 more bet from a bluff
2) Generally, you are less likely to be 3-bet on the river than the turn.
3) You have the option of calling the river if the board turns scary.
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:22 PM
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Why?
On this board, double why?

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Why what?
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:23 PM
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Why raise?
More specifically raise on what street, and why?
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:27 PM
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Why raise?
More specifically raise on what street, and why?

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Against an aggressive player, I want to get in at least 1 raise with TPGK on a non-straight, non-flush board.

I raise the river for the reasons mentioned in my other post.

Against a less aggressive opponent, I would call the entire way.
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