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Old 09-07-2004, 12:03 PM
Gabe Gabe is offline
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Default Re: 20-40 second pair vs. passive-meister

I read a book that said not to raise JJ before the flop.
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Old 09-07-2004, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: 20-40 second pair vs. passive-meister

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I read a book that said not to raise JJ before the flop.


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I read one that said 74s was a good hand. I put it back on the shelf.

If you don't raise with JJ how do you play TT and 99? These hands play much better against a small field. You increase your chances of winning by getting rid of (mainly)the blinds who would see the flop cheaply with Ace little, K little, etc. You must charge these players a fee to draw.
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Old 09-08-2004, 12:10 AM
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Default Clarkmeister,

straighten this guy out, please.
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Old 09-08-2004, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: 20-40 second pair vs. passive-meister

"I read one that said 74s was a good hand."

Me too. It also said to split 8s and aces.
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Old 09-08-2004, 01:17 AM
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Clarkmeister, straighten this guy out, please.

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I'm retired. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 09-08-2004, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: 20-40 second pair vs. passive-meister

Thought process..."There's 2 A's out, he didn't raise PF, he's bluffiing, I have a 9 I raise."

You have the 2+2 overbearing disease that afflicts many aspiring would be top players and posters. It's ridiculous how often plays like this are made and advocated.

"River is rag. UTG+1 checks, I bet, he calls. Figured at this point that I'm likely to be good."

I would've thought I was cooked on the turn. If he had half a brain or didn't consider you to be a LAG or maniac, why would he ch/call the turn and river if he was worried about a 9 or rag?

The real question is what you have done if ch/r'd on the turn? Or river? Hint...overbearing 2+2 default answers is 3 bet.

Steve A.
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