What would you do?

B1GF1SHY · #1 07-30-2004, 04:00 AM

Party $30 MTT - Would you fold and why?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (10 handed)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO (t5285)
Button (t1498)
SB (t2189)
BB (t3267)
UTG (t6214)
UTG+1 (t4471)
UTG+2 (t1395)
MP1 (t1290)
Hero (t3715)
MP3 (t2280)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to t350, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls t350, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls t250.

Flop: (t1100) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets t600, UTG+1 raises to t1200, Hero folds, BB calls t600.

Turn: (t3500) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets t1800, BB calls t1717 (All-In).

River: (t7017) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t7017
Main Pot: t6934 (t6934), between BB and UTG+1.
Pot 2: t83 (t83), returned to UTG+1.

Roman · #2 07-30-2004, 04:35 AM

well I would re-raise PF....

but as I told ya at the time, TPTK isnt really good in a 3 way pot esp after a raise, so I muck. You are in good shape, not a good time to risk ur stack.

B1GF1SHY · #3 07-30-2004, 04:38 AM

But I hate AK, it rarely hits for me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Roman · #4 07-30-2004, 04:46 AM

"for me" lol [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

soxfan70 · #5 07-30-2004, 09:46 AM

That's a tough fold. What do you put UTG+1 on? A 10? That's a pretty big PF raise. AA? Unlikely, and poorly played on the flop in my opinion. UTG+1's past play is important here. Has he been a bully with his big stack? From the little info we have here, that would be my read on this hand, and I think I push over the top of him on the flop, but I've been going bad lately. Good post.

B1GF1SHY · #6 07-30-2004, 03:34 PM

What scared me was that BB came out betting, I was more afraid of BB than UTG+1, simply because he called then bet, maybe TT or 99? On top of that the turn came a Q, so AQ in one of those hands most likely takes it down.

gergery · #7 07-30-2004, 04:54 PM

I like the call preflop, tho I think many others would say raise. If blinds were bigger or stacks smaller then I push. I think a good UTG+1 would call you with most any holding he would raise with here, unless you are betting 1200 or so, and then you are putting too much of your stack in for the times he calls and you miss the flop, so better to push.

The BB is leading out on an ace board against a preflop raiser and caller. I figure its reasonably likely he has two pair or better with TT,99,ATs,A9s,T9s. Or he could have AQ, AJs, JJ, QQ. But since he will know that many people raise with Ax he is unlikely to lead raise and then call without a good hand. I think straight draws would want to check/call the flop.

So I think calling doesn’t hurt you that much and lets worse hands bluff you. Your minraise doesn’t give you much info as only a pure bluff might fold, so I might raise higher if you think he’s bluffing. If he reraises, then you are probably beat, but there’s not much you can do since you have a great hand, and these blinds/stacks demand playing TPTK fairly strongly.

If you are willing to get all your chips in, then this is one spot where check/calling might be better than raising yourself, since it gives the AQ/AJ/JT/QQ hands a chance to bluff you. And you may lose less when beat.

--Greg

B1GF1SHY · #8 07-30-2004, 07:19 PM

They ended up both having AJ and split the pot. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]