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Old 12-04-2003, 11:47 PM
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Default Looking down the barrel of a gun, son of a gun, son of a...

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I’m in the big blind with

3d3c

2 callers, a loose raiser, and I call, it’s called around.

Flop comes down

4c 3s Jd
I check, two behind check, loose raise bets, I call and everyone else calls.

Turn is the 8c

I check, lr bets, I raise, next two fold, he three-bets, I cap.

I bet out the river and am called.

Comments on all streets appreciated.

I thought this was interesting for a couple of reasons. Namely, the following:

I hate slow-playing sets, but I thought this was a good situation for it. I think it helped to protect my hand and an almost guaranteed bet from lr.

I wasn’t sure about the turn cap with bottom set. I just finished reading the Brier/Ciaffone book again (no yelling at me for talking about a book that has nothing to do with these limits please) and it amazes me how easily I can lay down a moderate hand on the turn after reading this book. Anyhow, I still make the mistake of thinking that players think as I do, and didn’t like the turn cap as soon as I made it, but in retrospect I like it a lot.

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Old 12-05-2003, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: Looking down the barrel of a gun, son of a gun, son of a...

Considering your flop call, capping the turn seems natural.
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Old 12-05-2003, 12:17 AM
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Please explain. I usually interpret a turn raise as "I can beat a pair" . If my opponent had that definition of my turn raise, than what would he be three-betting with that he would also be raising pre-flop with? This was why I cringed at my cap, as I threw it in.

Maybe my error is in assuming that my opponent is bothering to put me on a hand.

-Huh
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Old 12-05-2003, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: Looking down the barrel of a gun, son of a gun, son of a...

He could have jacks, he could have an overpair too, or other crap. If my set is going down to another set, then it's going down in flames, baby.
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Old 12-05-2003, 12:49 AM
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What was the result of this hand?
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Old 12-05-2003, 02:31 AM
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Old 12-05-2003, 06:32 AM
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Am I the only one who likes betting the turn better than check-raising? It allows you to get a bet out of the rest of the field without making them call 2 cold, and will give you the opportunity to 3-bet. I like leading the turn better than c/r'ing.

Just something to consider.

GoT
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Old 12-05-2003, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: Looking down the barrel of a gun, son of a gun, son of a...

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Am I the only one who likes betting the turn better than check-raising?

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Nope. I like betting out much more for that reason. But I'd just come right out on the flop and bet it out for that same reason. A loose raiser pre-flop is often a loose raiser post-flop. With this flop, it's not a hand to protect, it's a hand to build a monster pot with. If he had pocket fours, well, good for him.

As for the turn cap, after the flop action, AJ or better (and sometimes worse) will usually 3-bet here. You shouldn't be worried about a 3-bet here from someone you've described a loose raiser pre-flop. People who overvalue hands pre-flop usually don't change post-flop. Good cap.
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Old 12-08-2003, 07:53 PM
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Sorry to take so long, have been away.

My opponent had Queens. Looking back at the hand, I really like the idea of leading at the flop. Ahhh well.

-Huh
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