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TMFS9 · #1 12-09-2005, 03:03 AM

The Sb is 51/20, and gets randomly aggressive in the wrong spots.

The Bb is a tag at 29/16 and seems a little on the weak side.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB raises, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (15 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB raises, Hero folds, SB calls.

Final Pot: 19 BB

imported_leader · #2 12-09-2005, 03:48 AM

I don't think I could get away from this. SB could have something you beat and BB wouldn't play an A like this. He might be trying to knock you out knowing he has SB beat a lot.

Danenania · #3 12-09-2005, 03:52 AM

I think you have a clear turn cap given your description of SB.

River fold is eezee. People always talk about never giving credit for quads but in this spot there are a large number of Ace combinations and an Ace is the only thing that makes any sense at all for the tag. Might seem like a big fold but it's not.

TMFS9 · #4 12-09-2005, 03:57 AM

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Really, the whole time I felt like I had the SB beat but with the BB calling two on the turn was my main concern.

New001 · #5 12-09-2005, 05:18 AM

At first glance, the BB looks like he could easily have an 8 and was waiting until the river for a "safe" card. SB could have anything, but it really looks like a pair lower than KK. Capping the turn probably makes it a lot easier to play, too.

#6 12-09-2005, 05:21 AM

When you have a big PP and 3 aces hit the board, someone ALLLLWAYS has the 4th ace. 100000%....IT NEVER FAILS.

Other than that, there are no absolutes in poker.

Danenania · #7 12-09-2005, 06:16 AM

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Really, the whole time I felt like I had the SB beat but with the BB calling two on the turn was my main concern.

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Until he lights up again on the river I see no reason to give BB credit for better than an 8 or PP.

#8 12-09-2005, 02:31 PM

I think you've got to pay off. When someone beats you with quads you just say "nh". People will call/bet these types of hands with almost any pair, not just the 4th ace.

zimmer879 · #9 12-09-2005, 03:56 PM

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Well yeah but it was weakish TAG who raised the river after a lot of action on prior streets. This is a fold.

danzasmack · #10 12-09-2005, 04:21 PM

w/ur read of BB i think you made the right fold.