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Old 10-17-2005, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: Best book for NL$100s?

Everyone here hates it, but for the smaller games, to win and stay in action while you learn, read the cloutier/mcEvoy NL book (their first one).

It's a bit weak tight, especially cloutiers angle, but it'll get you going. And stay away from laggier heroic plays you'll read about on MHNL section here.
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Old 10-17-2005, 03:32 AM
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Default Re: Best book for NL$100s?

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metagame.

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What does metagame mean?

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How your opponents view you, and their initial reads/thoughts.

ex: you make an insane bluff, suceed, then show your cards. Your opponents will have a different perception of you now.
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:04 AM
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metagame.

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What does metagame mean?

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metagame
1. a word amoeba likes to use.
2. an excuse for a stupid play
3. something you don't have to worry about in SSNL
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Old 10-17-2005, 04:56 AM
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I dont understand why people like Super System. Doyle teaches super arrgessive play so he can make negative EV choices because he is "freerolling" with all the pots he scooped with CBs. This makes no sense to me, because if you just play super aggro and pick up the pots anyway, without blowing chips on gutshots, he would have higher EV.

It also says nothing about pot odds or implied odds or anythhing important. And he believes in ESP.

my two cents

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I think you totally miss the point. Pushing a 9 out draw is almost always -EV if you get called. The idea is that you will get called infrequently enough that even if you do get called and don't quite have the pot odds, you are "freerolling" in the sense that you break even because you took enough other pots and if you do hit the draw, you end up with a huge gain.
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Old 10-17-2005, 05:35 AM
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Default Re: Best book for NL$100s?

Pot-Limit & No-Limit Poker by Reuben/Giaffone.
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Old 10-17-2005, 05:38 AM
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I think he should NOT read the Cloutier-books.

I read them when starting out and I got a way to weak/tight approach to the game in the beginning.
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:10 AM
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Great book but it is all about limit holdem. How does this help an NL player? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 10-17-2005, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: Best book for NL$100s?

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metagame.

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What does metagame mean?

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metagame
1. a word amoeba likes to use.
2. an excuse for a stupid play
3. something you don't have to worry about in SSNL

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I agree with you on 1&2 (amoeba can define himself).

On your third point I think you are correct for NL $25, $50 and $100 (most of the time). I think you have to start to develop a meta game strategy when you get to NL $200 and beyond. People are those levels are paying attention.

I started NL $200 playing TAG and after 50 or hands at a given table, my pre-flop raises got too much respect so I started raising with any two on the button and then re-evaluated post-flop. When people saw me check instead of continuation bet and fold to raises I started to get my monsters paid.

I will say that metagame is not an excuse to LAG it up, but if you have aspirations of NL $200 and beyond you had better be cognizant of it.
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Old 10-17-2005, 07:39 PM
KKrAAAzy88s KKrAAAzy88s is offline
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Default Re: Best book for NL$100s?

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SSHE

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Great book but it is all about limit holdem. How does this help an NL player? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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IIRC, Miller had a section where he has you figure out what is the nut hand and then the 2nd nuts. I thought that this was useful and was good to practice. I can't remember what else, it's been a while since I looked at that book. It wouldn't ever hurt to read it...

btw to the OP, this topic has been covered in the Books forum many times over. I'll give a hint though - TOP should be on your list.
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