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Old 01-14-2005, 11:37 AM
Meech Meech is offline
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Default KTs, tpgk

Anybody 3-bet the turn here? I had been the agressor up until the I was raised on the turn.

CO was super loose, no read on agression.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

River: (14 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 26 BB
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Old 01-14-2005, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: KTs, tpgk

Looks good. I wouldn't 3-bet this turn here.
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Old 01-14-2005, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: KTs, tpgk

I play it the same, no 3 bet on the turn.
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Old 01-14-2005, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: KTs, tpgk

I wouldn't 3-bet here, call down unimproved.

I think the river is a good spot for a check/raise.
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Old 01-14-2005, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: KTs, tpgk

Thanks for the opinions. CO raised the pot just when his 2nd pair was counterfeited.

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Tc Kc (flush, king high).
CO has Th 4s (two pair, tens and fives).
Button has 8s Js (two pair, jacks and fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 26 BB. </font>
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Old 01-14-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: KTs, tpgk

I would 3-bet the turn with more people in the hand
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Old 01-14-2005, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: KTs, tpgk

At that point there were still 4 players in the pot, I had 14 outs to two pair or better, 9 to the flush, 2 to beat a 5.

My pot equity at that point probably exceeded 25%, so I was primarily wondering if I missed an opportunity to make a value raise here.

CO was playing just about everything though, his VPIP was 92% over a tiny sample (analyzed post game). I knew at the time he played most hands. I definately couldn't rule out him having a 5.
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Old 01-14-2005, 03:10 PM
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Default Re: KTs, tpgk

Looks ok to me on all streets. I had to edit this post as I did not see you made the flush on the river.
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Old 01-14-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: KTs, tpgk

hey, can someone explain why no three bet here? Its seems doubtful to me that that second five gave him trips and you still have tpgk but now have the second nut flush draw. Is it because there are overcards that can still beat you on the river and the potential spade flush?

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