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Did I do this right? First O8 Hand Post
I don't really have reads...this table hasn't been raising much pre flop but I am in the big blind and have a 3-4 so i figured why not?? I got a perfect flop for what I had.
My question concerns the turn and river play. If I fear I am being quartered, or I know I only really have a shot at the low (Full house is possibility, even if a wheel were to hit on the river) is it stupid to cap the pot? Do I lose money to the High winner because of the possibility of being quartered? I don't know how far to take nut lows in this game. Nut highs, cap every time, yeah. But what do I do with a nut low?? PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Omaha/8 (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG+2 posts a blind of $0.05. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 (poster) checks, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls. Flop: (14.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls. Turn: (14.20 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls. River: (26.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls. Final Pot: 43.20 BB |
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Re: Did I do this right? First O8 Hand Post
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I don't really have reads...this table hasn't been raising much pre flop but I am in the big blind and have a 3-4 so i figured why not?? I got a perfect flop for what I had. My question concerns the turn and river play. If I fear I am being quartered, or I know I only really have a shot at the low (Full house is possibility, even if a wheel were to hit on the river) is it stupid to cap the pot? Do I lose money to the High winner because of the possibility of being quartered? I don't know how far to take nut lows in this game. Nut highs, cap every time, yeah. But what do I do with a nut low?? PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Omaha/8 (10 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG+2 posts a blind of $0.05. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 (poster) checks, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls. Flop: (14.40 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls. Turn: (14.20 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font> Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls. River: (26.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls. Final Pot: 43.20 BB [/ QUOTE ] If you think A22 is the perfect flop for an AQ34 hand, then you need to go read your books. Looks to me like you're drawing for half at best straight off the bat. |
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Re: Did I do this right? First O8 Hand Post
I meant perfect flop for the low possibility.
Check out the limit I am playing. Almost every time a nut low is made, I'm profitting because therer are 6 people seeing the flop. It's hilarious how much dead money is in every pot because people don't understand that Omaha is a NUTS game. |
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Re: Did I do this right? First O8 Hand Post
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I meant perfect flop for the low possibility. Check out the limit I am playing. Almost every time a nut low is made, I'm profitting because therer are 6 people seeing the flop. It's hilarious how much dead money is in every pot because people don't understand that Omaha is a NUTS game. [/ QUOTE ] Including you, evidently. |
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Re: Did I do this right? First O8 Hand Post
Edit, gonna redo this post.
Ribbo: This is my very first session playing O8 for 'real', as in not a .02/.04 game where I was learning the rules. I'm only at 128 hands, so win rate etc is useless. However, my VPIP for non-blinds is currently 13%. Small blinds, it's 25%. Pots won at showdown: 11 out of 11 (this includes Quartering though, which happened in this hand, and only 2 scoops...so I won 2.25+8(1/2), or 6.25 full pots out of 11 showdowns (though I never had a Muck in showdown so far) I know this sample and all is stupidly small, but I am posting it to show you that I'm not some idiot fish who is playing hands that won't win a high or a low in my first session. |
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Re: Did I do this right? First O8 Hand Post
These bets and raises aren't bad, since he's got
1) Great equity 2) He's getting more than paid off to get half the pot Maybe you could enlighten us by actually analyzing and critiquing his play, rather than quoting individual lines and mocking him like some 12 year old jackoff, ribbo. What does sitting back and posting like that accomplish? |
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Re: Did I do this right? First O8 Hand Post
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Way to be an [censored], Ribbo. [/ QUOTE ] He wasn't being an ass. He was critiquing the play. If this bothers you, then you probably should go to a forum where the only response allowed is "Awesome hand man! Group Hug!!! [ QUOTE ] These bets and raises aren't bad, since he's got 1) Great equity 2) He's getting more than paid off to get half the pot [/ QUOTE ] Correct me if I'm wrong Ribbo, but I believe his beef with the hand was on the flop. He's raising the flop with 16 outs for half-equity at best. The way I understand it, you should be pumping the pot with made hands and strong draws on both ends, not just for low. |
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Re: Did I do this right? First O8 Hand Post
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These bets and raises aren't bad, since he's got 1) Great equity 2) He's getting more than paid off to get half the pot Maybe you could enlighten us by actually analyzing and critiquing his play, rather than quoting individual lines and mocking him like some 12 year old jackoff, ribbo. What does sitting back and posting like that accomplish? [/ QUOTE ] The flop bet is bad. Even with 34xx he does not have fresh money odds to be getting more money in, and he wants callers, not folders here. -- Greg (btw, have I mentioned how much I love O8 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] ) |
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Re: Did I do this right? First O8 Hand Post
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[ QUOTE ] I meant perfect flop for the low possibility. Check out the limit I am playing. Almost every time a nut low is made, I'm profitting because therer are 6 people seeing the flop. It's hilarious how much dead money is in every pot because people don't understand that Omaha is a NUTS game. [/ QUOTE ] Including you, evidently. [/ QUOTE ] How could you consider this "critiquing someone's play?" Harsh but honest and helpful comments are fine. This is neither. There's a huge difference between asking for civility and going to an "awesome hand dude" forum. |
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Re: Did I do this right? First O8 Hand Post
[ QUOTE ] If you think A22 is the perfect flop for an AQ34 hand, then you need to go read your books. Looks to me like you're drawing for half at best straight off the bat. [/ QUOTE ] This sounds like pretty solid critique to me. |
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