Do I fold AA on this flop with this action?

[Ghazban]

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I don't play on UB, but I call this on Party all day expecting a smaller overpair and a club draw.

Edit to add I also raise more preflop.

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What do you raise to preflop?

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To about $30-$40 straight. I'm out of position and looking to commit myself as early as possible. There's been a raise and a call already so, even if I get no action, I pick up a nice pot. If I can get ~1/6 of my stack in preflop with AA, I'm perfectly willing to get the rest in postflop regardless.

[emil3000]

$28 is a fine number. Would make the flop decision very easy. I still call this.

[greygoo]

PSR would be to 27. I would probably make it 30, because
a) nobody wants multi-way pot OOP in this spot
b) it tends to narrow opponent hand range

btw, i fold that flop after that action by default (no reads)

[flawless_victory]

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jman220,

don't worry about what the villains showed down this hand. calling in this spot will lead to bad poker.

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WHAT?

no effing way do i fold this unless button is really solid and will almost always have 22-44... since i doubt this is the case, call!
you have UTG killed and button likely has a club draw... you are getting a nice price here callcallcall... yell hold em dealer at the screen.

[Voltron87]

i dont fold here ever. even rocks will show you KK and stuff. tha preflop rr narrows the range a lot.

and to the poster who said that not having the Ac makes a big difference, um thats pretty marginal and insignificant. i dont think it swings the decision one way or the other at all. its not going to turn a fold into a call or anything.

edit also- to whoever said the preflop utg raise takes the small pairs out of UTGs range, um what? i open UTG for 4bb with all pairs. but 22-44 id fold to a reraise while oop. so call and holler.

[Maulik]

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i dont fold here ever. even rocks will show you KK and stuff. tha preflop rr narrows the range a lot.

and to the poster who said that not having the Ac makes a big difference, um thats pretty marginal and insignificant. i dont think it swings the decision one way or the other at all. its not going to turn a fold into a call or anything.

edit also- to whoever said the preflop utg raise takes the small pairs out of UTGs range, um what? i open UTG for 4bb with all pairs. but 22-44 id fold to a reraise while oop. so call and holler.

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you are right, but it makes it much better if you're drawing against a set, etc.

But if UB games play anything like FT games, this is probably a fold as most levels above NL200+

[Voltron87]

so utg called a reraise oop with 22-44 enough times to make up for the times you crush an overpair and are decently ahead of a draw? no

[Maulik]

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so utg called a reraise oop with 22-44 enough times to make up for the times you crush an overpair and are decently ahead of a draw? no

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yes.

utg & button called raised.

bb leads, utg raises, button flat calls.

looks like he wants hero coming along for the ride.

[DonButtons]

first off, ub has a nice pot button for preflop situations like this...

then insta call flop...its like only 100 or so more...

hands like this are a insta stack in 4 handed games and lower, there just a lot more aggressive, specially in my games where the action is super fast..

[jman220]

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bb leads, utg raises, button flat calls.

looks like he wants hero coming along for the ride.

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I should point tout that the bet that button flat called was an all-in bet that had me covered as well. Therefore, hiim flat calling as opposed to raising is meaningless IMO (Unless you think people will raise an amount that doesn't mean anythign because they think it will make an opponent psychologically more likely to fold).