PPJP @ 450k!

[emonrad87]

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With the jackpot so big, it's ordinarily [ok, maybe not ALWAYS, but pretty close] in each player's interest to call down with almost any hand that has any chance to qualify for the jackpot.

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Hardly.

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Hardly.

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Useless post.

I'll elaborate anyway: At $400,000, if you "win" the jackpot you get $160k. If you "lose" you get $80k. 15/30 is the highest limit available, right? So if you have to call 4 bets cold -- $120 -- drawing to one out (inside str8 flush draw), then -- if the board includes a pair 88 or above -- you clearly have odds to call. I'll bet it's even close if the flop is capped and you need runner-runner, even taking into account the (un)likelihood that any of the others has quad-8s or better or will get there.

That's just one example.

And stop making posts like "hardly". It's insulting and annoying, particularly when you're wrong. It's clear how you got to 2000 posts -- none of which, to my recollection, were in HUSH, medium stakes, or high stakes.

[MicroBob]

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I'll elaborate anyway: At $400,000, if you "win" the jackpot you get $160k. If you "lose" you get $80k. 15/30 is the highest limit available, right? So if you have to call 4 bets cold -- $120 -- drawing to one out (inside str8 flush draw), then -- if the board includes a pair 88 or above -- you clearly have odds to call. I'll bet it's even close if the flop is capped and you need runner-runner, even taking into account the (un)likelihood that any of the others has quad-8s or better or will get there.

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you are wrong. And I want to play at your tables.

Seriously...you are losing a LOT of EV if you are actually doing this.

You could barely have enough increased odds to make an extreme borderline fold change to a borderline-call....that's about it.

But to say that you should be trying to runner-runner straight-flushes and quads all the time (as you seemed to indicate might be correct) is REALLY off.

Also - there are some players who play any suited-connectors down to 32s from EP or for a raise against 1 player...whatever.
These are very good friends to have for any player who actually would prefer to win money.


In other news...I had JJ on a board of QQJJx yesterday and was getting REALLY freaking excited.
No dice...but I did win a nice sized-pot though.

[jman220]

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Hardly.

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Useless post.

I'll elaborate anyway: At $400,000, if you "win" the jackpot you get $160k. If you "lose" you get $80k. 15/30 is the highest limit available, right? So if you have to call 4 bets cold -- $120 -- drawing to one out (inside str8 flush draw), then -- if the board includes a pair 88 or above -- you clearly have odds to call. I'll bet it's even close if the flop is capped and you need runner-runner, even taking into account the (un)likelihood that any of the others has quad-8s or better or will get there.

That's just one example.

And stop making posts like "hardly". It's insulting and annoying, particularly when you're wrong. It's clear how you got to 2000 posts -- none of which, to my recollection, were in HUSH, medium stakes, or high stakes.

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You do not have correct odds to chase a 1 or 2 outer for $120 to a 400k jackpot if the qualifying hand your opponent needs to have also is quad 8's or better. Its not even close. Its not even close to close. Do you see why?

[Sciolist]

If the bad beat jackpot were $4m instead of $400k, and you were playing 2/4, you'd probably be right. As it is though, you're not. The odds are off by a mile.