Great river card, still fold?

ahnuld · #1 10-03-2005, 02:11 PM

400 nl on party. I have no obvious image. Villan is normal party 400nl player, meaning not particularly good or tight or lag just geenrally passive. I have A4 offsuit in the BB.
Flop comes A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5x 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. 12 in pot. I lead for 10.

! fold, then vilan in CO makes it 25. I put him on a flush draw most likely. I call, turn brings the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] I lead for 45 into 60 pot. Villan calls. River is the 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], my money card becuase I think it made him a flush and my fh at the same time. I check, expecting him to bet his flush so I can CR allin and get his stack. Instead willan goes alln for 320 into 145 pot. wtf?

savman · #2 10-03-2005, 02:20 PM

i am not folding here. a lot of the time he overbets flush or fives full.

AZK · #3 10-03-2005, 02:22 PM

Let me get this right...You are asking us if you should fold A4 on an A95A4 board, is that the question?

flawless_victory · #4 10-03-2005, 02:24 PM

plz repost in bad beats/cold decks forum.
bye.

mike l. · #5 10-03-2005, 02:25 PM

when you check the river you give the go ahead to the other players that their flush is good.

Richie Rich · #6 10-03-2005, 02:30 PM

Call. When you led on the flop and then just called his raise, seems like villain put you on a flush draw. So when that third heart fell on the board, he was hoping that you would call. I would expect to see villain holding 55 or 99 considerably more often than the only 2 hands that can beat you: A5 and A9. Especially at NL400.

Jocke_F · #7 10-03-2005, 03:10 PM

You have to know this is a call, you shouldn't be playing at NL400 if you don't

BobboFitos · #8 10-03-2005, 03:13 PM

is this a joke? didnt you check the river to c/r all in? beat him into the pot

ahnuld · #9 10-03-2005, 03:38 PM

I thought for a bit, then realised I couldnt fold even for the huge overbet and called. He had 55 and I took it down. I was just checking to make sure calling here is the correct play becuase so often these huge overbets are the nuts at 400nl and not bluffs. In fact they are almost never bluffs. Just wondering, how much would he have to have before poeple consider folding? If the hand was played the same and he moved on the river for 700, do people still reply that it's the easiest call ever?