600 NL: AA raise or call river?

The.Filth · #1 03-16-2005, 05:07 PM

i was pretty sure the guy to act after didn't have a flush.. and i don't think the guy first to act had the flush either since his bet was so small.. turns out he rivered a straight.. should i have bet the turn or played this hand any differently?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter

SB ($602.1)
BB ($1172.6)
UTG ($547.1)
MP ($1004.2)
Hero ($628.7)
Button ($1384.85)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
1 fold, MP calls $6, Hero raises to $18, Button calls $18, 1 fold, BB calls $12, MP folds.

Flop: ($63) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $45, Button calls $45, BB calls $45.

Turn: ($198) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($198) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets $72, Hero raises to $250, Button folds, BB calls $178.

Final Pot: $698

Results in white below: 
BB has 5d 6s (straight, eight high).
Hero has Ad As (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: BB wins $698.

bogey · #2 03-16-2005, 05:11 PM

raise more preflop

just call river, what is gonna call a river raise other than something that beats you?

The.Filth · #3 03-16-2005, 05:15 PM

yeah.. i was thinking he had 2 pair or a smaller set..

HoldEm_Hero · #4 03-16-2005, 05:25 PM

Why did you check the turn?

NickDollar · #5 03-16-2005, 05:27 PM

Preflop: with one limper in already, I like a bigger raise, 4x-5x BB is just a small increase but it works wonders.

Flop: Multiway pot with draws, I'm more inclined to bet full pot here, but 3/4 isn't drastically low. Seems fine.

Turn: Definitely check behind here, you may have had someone just flush out on you and you do NOT want to be raised out of the pot now, since you caught full house outs. Had button bet you would have probably had to call and been in a tough spot on the river if you didn't fill up, but that didn't happen.

River: As I'm sure the consensus will be, you need to just call, as I really don't see much that would logically lead out here and then call a raise that doesn't beat you.

aggie · #6 03-16-2005, 05:40 PM

definitely don't raise the river (you can bet if checked to)...

I'm curious about the check behind on the turn...I think this is the best play but I'd like to hear more opinions?

ggbman · #7 03-16-2005, 05:43 PM

I think you have to bet the turn and fold to a big pop, just so something like that doesn't happen.

aggie · #8 03-16-2005, 05:55 PM

I think this answer very much depends on how strong / aggressive the competition is. The turn card is a great bluff / semibluff spot for strong opponents who have noticed a propensity for you to bet despite the appearance of a scare card....It's very hard to put the hero on a flush this point (and very easy to put the hero on AK)....

bogey · #9 03-16-2005, 07:05 PM

i think checking the turn is good since i want to be able to see the river card here. If I pot it and someone raises allin you probably dont have the odds to draw to your boat.