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Old 12-02-2005, 03:29 PM
scdavis0 scdavis0 is offline
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Default QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

My read on villain is he is just kinda goofy. Plays reasonable but gets tilty at time and does some weird stuff.


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Button ($282.70)
SB ($55)
BB ($101.55)
UTG ($112.80)
Hero ($393.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, Button calls $7, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($22) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, Button calls $20, BB folds.

Turn: ($62) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30.

River: ($122) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $65</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $130</font>, Hero calls $65.

Final Pot: $382
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:40 PM
beavens beavens is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

any reason for not betting the turn?
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:43 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:46 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

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I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.

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agreed. what hands are paying off the river? maybe 88-TT?
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

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I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.

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Old 12-02-2005, 07:33 PM
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I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.

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I agree, could someone explain the benefit of check calling the turn and leading the river?

IMHO, the way the hand was played I think you were getting raised on the turn if you led out anyway.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:36 PM
ahnuld ahnuld is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t get the line

Just cc river. Let him bluff off chips with A or k clubs or make a dumb value bet with AJ.
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:38 PM
iceman5 iceman5 is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t get the line

Id say it was stupidity. Like you said, you cant fold to the river minimum raise. Nobody ever does, so theres no way he can raise like that as a bluff. So, either he thought his hand was good which is idiotic.....or he thought he could min raise as a bluff, which is idiotic.

Id say hes an idiot. NH.
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Old 12-04-2005, 03:34 AM
savman savman is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t get the line

for the people who are advocating leading turn...this is bad play for reasons scdavis stated. leading the turn gives opponent a chance to blow u off best hand/draw. on the river i prefer check call. this time u were agianst mega donk and he minraised with a hand u beat. this will often times not be the case. i think the play is check call the river as well. yea, u will miss thvalue on some meidum pp's (when they actually call) but u gain vlaue from bluffs, plus iditos value betting hand su beat. and u lose the least when behind since we are calling minraises.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:48 PM
Phoenix1010 Phoenix1010 is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t get the line

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I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.

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I agree, could someone explain the benefit of check calling the turn and leading the river?

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Because you don't want goofy to raise you off the best hand/a strong draw.
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