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Old 12-31-2005, 04:33 AM
Lmn55d Lmn55d is offline
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Default Re: A few decisions...

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Flop call because if I am ahead, I am not getting anyone drawing live against me out.

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SB won't fold a hand like TJ for 2? Also, Dean can call correctly with a 3 outer (AK/AQ/AJ) if you call but can't if you raise.

EDIT: I'm an idiot and sb bet this flop...for some reason I thought BB bet and Sb was still to act. Disregard this point.

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Also, if dean raises, it puts me in excellent position to bet into him and clear the field on the turn if I like the card.

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If Dean raises the flop after you call I'm not so sure you want to clear the field. In other words, you're usually screwed.

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If I'm 3-bet on the flop, I am behind nearly 100% of the time.

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Is this so bad? You risk one sb to give you some protection if ahead (see above) and get some decent information. Seems worth it to me.

EDIT: Oh, one more thing. A lot of turn cards will make SB freeze up and check to you, denying you the opportunity to make your move.
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Old 12-31-2005, 04:36 AM
TheMetetron TheMetetron is offline
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Default Re: A few decisions...

Not raising the flop is really bad.
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Old 12-31-2005, 04:43 AM
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He would be getting around 9:1 if I raise. Edit: wow, I shouldn't post like this. I thought he had 6 outs with AK.

Right on the second point. I'm a little high right now.

I don't think you realize how much strength SB is showing by betting into a field of 4 after the 3-bet PF.
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Old 12-31-2005, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: A few decisions...

oh wait, I thought BB bet the flop and SB was still left to act. Since sb bet the flop, it's obviously unlikely he has a JT hand like I said and, if he did, wouldn't fold it for one more.

Because of this, your flop call seems more reasonable than it would if sb was still in. However, my points about sb getting scared on the turn and Dean folding a 3 outer would still make me raise. I do see your reasoning though (Dean is either way ahead of you or drawing to 3 outs), and do not think calling the flop is horrible. However, I still think it's worth investing the extra sb since you're gonna have to see the turn (and probably the river) anyway.
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Old 12-31-2005, 04:55 AM
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Oh, and you absolutely need to raise the turn the way you played it.
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Old 12-31-2005, 05:08 AM
kurosh kurosh is offline
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You guys are missing the point, some hand reading please. What do you bet into a field of 4 with when there has been strength shown PF and he is in perfect position to CR?
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Old 12-31-2005, 02:17 PM
Lmn55d Lmn55d is offline
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are you kidding? I've played in these games before, this guy could have anything. 78, A4 etc.
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Old 12-31-2005, 03:23 PM
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I'd raise the flop, if I didn't I'd definitely raise the turn since he bet it for you. If you get 3 bet, fold next hand.
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