Trip 4's, ugly kicker, spewing?

KidPokerX · #1 10-04-2005, 09:29 PM

Seat 3's actions didn't suprise me as he is known to act over-aggressive in big pots often with mediocre holdings. Seat 6's re-raise on the turn (after calling the whole way) confused me the most. I thought I was beat on the turn but was going to pay it down ... until the 4 came. Had the 4 not come, should I check/call river?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds.
Seat 3 bets, seat 6 calls $20, Seat 1 SB calls $15, Hero Seat 2 calls $10.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Seat 1 checks, Hero bets $10, Seat 3 raises to $20, Seat 6 calls $20, Seat 1 folds, Hero re-raises $20, Seat 3 re-raises $20, Seat 6 calls $20, Hero calls $10.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
.Hero bets $20, Seat 3 re-raises $20, Seat 6 calls $40, Hero raises $40, Seat 3 calls $20, Seat 6 re-raises $40, Hero calls $20, Seat 3 calls $20.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)Hero bets $20, Seat 3 calls $20, Seat 6 calls $20.

Final Pot: Hero wins $497.00 from main pot.

Results below:
Outcome:
Hero has 4c 2c (four of a kind, fours).
UTG has Js Ad (full house, fours full of jacks).
Button has (full house, fours full of jacks).

Also:
I really thought i was beat on this turn - I figured seat 6 had a FH or better kicker with the 4. When the river came I bet because I figured both would atleast call, but more-likely I figured the FH, or overpair (which was likely as well) would re-raise. I figured betting out would stick with my aggression.

elindauer · #2 10-04-2005, 09:35 PM

I think you gave too much action, and am shocked that you had the best hand the whole time. I think just calling the turn raise is prudent. The raiser isn't slowing down despite your cries that you have a 4, and there's a 3rd guy hanging tough as well.

Good luck.
Eric

KidPokerX · #3 10-04-2005, 09:46 PM

Seat 3's raises meant very little to me, in fact I had him on the Jack, overpair, or bluff as being the most-likely (just to give you some perspective on his play).

Seat 6 is who scared me, I wanted him to go away, he appeared solid. I just can't lay this massive pot down because of his fishy re-raise cap.

I was surprised to find him only with the J, and not AA.

ncboiler · #4 10-04-2005, 10:38 PM

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Seat 3's actions didn't suprise me as he is known to act over-aggressive in big pots often with mediocre holdings. Seat 6's re-raise on the turn (after calling the whole way) confused me the most. I thought I was beat on the turn but was going to pay it down ... until the 4 came. Had the 4 not come, should I check/call river?

Party Poker (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds.
Seat 3 bets, seat 6 calls $20, Seat 1 SB calls $15, Hero Seat 2 calls $10.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Seat 1 checks, Hero bets $10, Seat 3 raises to $20, Seat 6 calls $20, Seat 1 folds, Hero re-raises $20, Seat 3 re-raises $20, Seat 6 calls $20, Hero calls $10.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
.Hero bets $20, Seat 3 re-raises $20, Seat 6 calls $40, Hero raises $40, Seat 3 calls $20, Seat 6 re-raises $40, Hero calls $20, Seat 3 calls $20.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)Hero bets $20, Seat 3 calls $20, Seat 6 calls $20.

Final Pot: Hero wins $497.00 from main pot.

Results below:
Outcome:
Hero has 4c 2c (four of a kind, fours).
UTG has Js Ad (full house, fours full of jacks).
Button has (full house, fours full of jacks).

Also:
I really thought i was beat on this turn - I figured seat 6 had a FH or better kicker with the 4. When the river came I bet because I figured both would atleast call, but more-likely I figured the FH, or overpair (which was likely as well) would re-raise. I figured betting out would stick with my aggression.

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Trips with no flush or straight draw....I call it down. If dude has j/j or 10/10 who ray for him.

#5 10-05-2005, 06:47 AM

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I just can't lay this massive pot down because of his fishy re-raise cap.

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I don't think anyone's suggesting you should have folded at any point in the hand.