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Old 11-24-2005, 11:28 PM
JAP JAP is offline
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Default SB vs BB rock

The Villain is a rock. My read in the hand was that he had hit an 8 or an 7. perhaps a flush draw and that he wanted a showdown, though i thought that if i pressured he would fold.

My image is tight agressive, although i like to make stabs at the blinds and i think he knows that.

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- button sitting in seat 1 with $76.00
- CO sitting in seat 2 with $397.85
- UTG sitting in seat 3 with $18.00
- MP sitting in seat 4 with $189.86 [Dealer]
- Hero sitting in seat 5 with $197.00
- VILLAIN sitting in seat 6 with $344.69

Hero posted the small blind - $1.00
VILLAIN posted the big blind - $2.00
UTG posted to play - $2.00
** Dealing card to Hero: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
button folded
CO folded
UTG checked
MP called - $2.00
Hero called - $2.00
VILLAIN checked

** Dealing the flop: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero checked
VILLAIN bet - $4.00
UTG folded
MP folded
Hero raised - $15.00
VILLAIN called - $15.00

** Dealing the turn: 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero bet - $36.00
VILLAIN called - $36.00

** Dealing the river: J
[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero went all-in - $145.00
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Old 11-25-2005, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: SB vs BB rock

Anyone?
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Old 11-25-2005, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: SB vs BB rock

im guessing this didnt work? he has shown a lot of strength here, he called a flop raise and a nice turn bet im not sure why u think he fold to this push enough to make it +EV...
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Old 11-25-2005, 01:46 AM
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BB is a rock and your making plays like this? You must hate money.
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Old 11-25-2005, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: SB vs BB rock

I am done after the flop, you can safely be done after the turn call...
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Old 11-25-2005, 03:35 AM
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Default Re: SB vs BB rock

i would fold pf.....but since u apparently think u can take this pot away (i mean i hope u are completing with 10 6 hoping to win with the best hand at showdown) i would raise pf if BB is rock....most of the time he folds anyway, and he should give weight to the fact u are raising from the worst position on the table. of course i wouldnt do this if MPlimper was a calling station, but if he is standard i would expect him to fold to ur c-bet often enough to make this play profitable.
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Old 11-25-2005, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: SB vs BB rock

Maybe if the river were the J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] this might be a good spot to bluff. However, this guy is a rock and he bet the flop, called a raise, called potsize turn bet. He is probably holding 2 pair or better and isn't normally folding here.
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Old 11-25-2005, 08:36 AM
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Ok, seems like the consensus is that it was a bad move. I really thought all he had was an 8 and that he was just getting stubborn on those mediumsized bets. I thought there was no way that he could call the river bet with just an 8 (or busted flushdraw).
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Old 11-25-2005, 08:43 AM
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Default Re: SB vs BB rock

You are done after the flop, u dont think the dubbel gutter is worth any money?
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Old 11-25-2005, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: SB vs BB rock

Against a rock, this is spewing. Fold pre-flop, only Gus Hansen can win with 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. If you must play, call his flop bet (a rock is not bluffing here). I would have not bet out the turn, but called his inevitable donk-like bet. Check/fold that river. Rocks are only easy to bluff once they indicate that they do not like their hand, this rock seems to like his hand quite a bit.
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