take home exam situation

[mmcd]

I love threads like this because they invariably bring the people that take life way too seriously out of the woodwork.

Hopefully, the poll results will serve to remind them how out of touch with reality they are.

[lastchance]

I made my answer before I saw the "It's a graduate class, so grades don't really matter." I need to start applying that concept (eh.. HS, multiple AP classes, getting 3.0 should be fine)

[mmbt0ne]

Bump because I've got 2 of these right now. One that is pretty open, and one that is very obviously no collaboration. Some people in the no collaboration class had a meeting yesterday afternoon to work on the exam anyway, which I decided late not to go to because I was hanging out with my girlfriend. Today we got this e-mail.


It saddens me to say that several students have ignored my warning on
collaboration on the final exam.

I do have names for individuals who committed this breach of my trust
and the Georgia Tech Honor Code.

I will therefor give you a choice:

You can respond to this e-mail and admit to me that you collaborated,
and I will dock your exam grade by 40 points (out of 110).

or

I will turn your names over to your respective Departments and the Dean
of Students and, given that you have this choice, do my best to see you
dismissed from Georgia Tech.

You have until Wednesday at 5 PM to choose.


BUSTED!

In my experience, these timed take-home exams always gave me more than enough time to finish the exam to my satisfaction. So I'd say if you need more than 8 hours, you're just stupid, and no matter how much time you take, you'll do poorly on the exam.

A desire to work with others would also suggests that you are stupid, for two reasons. First, why give your peers the advantage of using your answers? Unless you're stupider than they, working together wouldn't benefit you. Two, you'll get caught very easily doing this, and get kicked out of school.

Finally, cheating in grad school is pointless; you'll get good marks even if you turn in a piece of dog sh!t.

Unless you're truly posting this question out of curiosity, you are a fool.

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I made my answer before I saw the "It's a graduate class, so grades don't really matter." I need to start applying that concept (eh.. HS, multiple AP classes, getting 3.0 should be fine)

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Uh, no. HS grades matter immensely. You should be busting your ass to get grades in HS. College grades also matter, but less so. Graduate school grades are meaningless.

[IronDragon1]

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Finally, cheating in grad school is pointless; you'll get good marks even if you turn in a piece of dog sh!t.


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I plan on testing this hypothesis over the next three days.

[mmcd]

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Today we got this e-mail.


It saddens me to say that several students have ignored my warning on
collaboration on the final exam.

I do have names for individuals who committed this breach of my trust
and the Georgia Tech Honor Code.

I will therefor give you a choice:

You can respond to this e-mail and admit to me that you collaborated,
and I will dock your exam grade by 40 points (out of 110).

or

I will turn your names over to your respective Departments and the Dean
of Students and, given that you have this choice, do my best to see you
dismissed from Georgia Tech.

You have until Wednesday at 5 PM to choose.



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Translation:

I have heard a very reliable rumor that several students in the class have collaborated on the exam. I do not know (and certainly can not prove), however, exactly who those students are. I sincerely hope that one or more of them are stupid enough to respond to this e-mail so I can get to the bottom of the matter. Otherwise, I would be left without any recourse other than to either ignore the matter or readminister the exam to the entire class in a more controlled setting.


Sincerely,

Professor John Q. Jerkoff


All of you that purport to hold "honesty" and "integrety" in such high regard should be appaled at this letter. Other than maybe "I love you" or "The check's in the mail", "We already know you did it, and things will go much easier on you if you just fess up" is probably one of the most oft-repeated lies out there. That professor ought to be ashamed of himself for sending out such a blatantly deceptive e-mail in an attempt to punish dishonesty.

[lastchance]

Ok, got it, slack off later. Still, I probably care way too much about my grades, just got to do all of my work correctly, and accept it.

[pokerjoker]

wow, its always amazing to me how many ***** players are cheaters. It bothers me more because most of the people here are probably of genius IQ or close to it.

If you are intelligent enough to beat ***** you are intelligent enough to succeed without cheating.

/end moral rant.

[mmcd]

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wow, its always amazing to me how many ***** players are cheaters. It bothers me more because most of the people here are probably of genius IQ or close to it.

If you are intelligent enough to beat ***** you are intelligent enough to succeed without cheating.

/end moral rant.

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Or, maybe we're intelligent enough to weigh the ev of cheating on a test the same way we weigh the ev of countless other decisions.