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#11
05-04-2005, 06:18 PM
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Re: struggling w/ QQ and weak stacks... 30+3
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[ QUOTE ] Poosh! You'll get shown jacks, tens, and AK enough here. [/ QUOTE ] enough for what? the play to be slightly above breaking even? QQ v TT+, AK: win %52.4 [/ QUOTE ] QQ vs AKo: 56/44 QQ vs AKs: 54/46 QQ vs JJ: 83/17 QQ vs TT: 83/17 I don't see what you're getting at. Another reason I hate the idea of calling here is that if an ace or king does hit the flop, you're folding leaving yourself with t480. Certainly you can come back from that, but it's not a great place to be, especially if the blinds are going to rise soon. Anyways, append all my posts with an imaginary "IMO." I'm a 10+1 player, so take my advice with a grain of salt when talking about higher buyins. 
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#12
05-04-2005, 06:22 PM
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Re: struggling w/ QQ and weak stacks... 30+3
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call or raise.. i might call because personally im trying to tone down my QQ action just a notch... ive lost an insane amount with QQ in nlhe .. but ofcourse tourneys are different [/ QUOTE ] ya tournies are different. push here. also - I would have raised a bit more initially with QQ just because your raise is practically an exact value bet for your hand. Looks like the reraiser is playing on your weakness. Why raise 90 when you can raise >115? I dunno, that's just what I would think.
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#13
05-04-2005, 06:34 PM
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Re: struggling w/ QQ and weak stacks... 30+3
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Poosh! You'll get shown jacks, tens, and AK enough here. [/ QUOTE ] enough for what? the play to be slightly above breaking even? QQ v TT+, AK: win %52.4 [/ QUOTE ] QQ vs AKo: 56/44 QQ vs AKs: 54/46 QQ vs JJ: 83/17 QQ vs TT: 83/17 I don't see what you're getting at. Another reason I hate the idea of calling here is that if an ace or king does hit the flop, you're folding leaving yourself with t480. Certainly you can come back from that, but it's not a great place to be, especially if the blinds are going to rise soon. Anyways, append all my posts with an imaginary "IMO." I'm a 10+1 player, so take my advice with a grain of salt when talking about higher buyins. [/ QUOTE ] AA KK QQ?
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#15
05-04-2005, 09:47 PM
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Re: struggling w/ QQ and weak stacks... 30+3
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[ QUOTE ] Poosh! You'll get shown jacks, tens, and AK enough here. [/ QUOTE ] enough for what? the play to be slightly above breaking even? QQ v TT+, AK: win %52.4 [/ QUOTE ] Point taken, but don't forget that there's already a fair bit of money in the pot. You're getting 1.5:1 on your push. I don't see the point of calling and pushing a non-A, non-K flop, as that'll only help you against AK, and you don't mind racing AK getting 1.5:1. So just push.
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#17
05-05-2005, 01:14 AM
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Re: struggling w/ QQ and weak stacks... 30+3
Well, i feel like I am being useless on this forum so i guess I will post MO. IMO, this is a poosh. QQ is too strong, and the fact that this a 33 means nothing. I will see a move like this from JJ , AQ, and AJ even at the 55s. While it is likely that he could have AK, I still think ur only option is is to push, considering ur chipstack. Definitely +EV. Peace.
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#18
05-05-2005, 02:55 AM
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Re: struggling w/ QQ and weak stacks... 30+3
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[ QUOTE ] Poosh! You'll get shown jacks, tens, and AK enough here. [/ QUOTE ] even on 30's?... anyone else think this? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. You will also see any pocket pair and Ax. The different buyins are not radically different. In 20 you have 2 or 3 decent players. At 30s you have 3 or 4. Part of the key is knowing who is good and who is weak. The large pool or players make this hard but if you play enough you and start making notes you will occasionally run into the situtation where you have 3 or 4 notes that a player way over plays weak aces or is an agressive bluffer. Sometimes these notes lead you astray (everyone wakes up with AA sometimes) but they are better than no info
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#19
05-05-2005, 05:15 AM
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Re: struggling w/ QQ and weak stacks... 30+3
with no reads I usually assume that this reraise is 1 of two things:
1. a test to see how you respond to find where his marginal hand stands 2. A trap that is meant to get the pot bigger without scaring you off and to give you the chance to reraise. if option 1, he will probably fold, if option 2 he will call. You have position on him, so personally I would call and outplay him on the flop rather then gamble that he didn't get delt AA, KK, AK (although most players would not raise this amount with AK).
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#20
05-05-2005, 12:27 PM
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Re: struggling w/ QQ and weak stacks... 30+3
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with no reads I usually assume that this reraise is 1 of two things: 1. a test to see how you respond to find where his marginal hand stands 2. A trap that is meant to get the pot bigger without scaring you off and to give you the chance to reraise. if option 1, he will probably fold, if option 2 he will call. You have position on him, so personally I would call and outplay him on the flop rather then gamble that he didn't get delt AA, KK, AK (although most players would not raise this amount with AK). [/ QUOTE ] i didn't have position... which is where part of the predicament came from... [ QUOTE ] Looks like the reraiser is playing on your weakness. Why raise 90 when you can raise >115? I dunno, that's just what I would think. [/ QUOTE ] I think it is pretty rare that players (at least at these lower levels) play to perceived weakness with what is essentially a min-raise... Also, my reason for the raise to 90 is basically bc that's the typical default 3xBB raise... i think w/ something like QQ early in the tourney it's pretty wise to do something like this... it forces out good players who respect decent raises... and if a crap player was gonna call 90, he's gonna call 115... also... if i get raised all in... truthfully i'd fold... and i don't want to risk more than i need to find out if i need to fold...
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