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Old 09-14-2005, 12:25 AM
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Default AKs Value raise the river?

1/2 game at poker room, 10 handed, no reads.

Hero is CO+1 and is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Preflop

UTG limps and it is folded to hero who raises. The big blind three bets, UTG calls, and hero caps. Everyone calls. Pretty standard I'm thinking so far.

Flop

K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

BB bets out, UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, UTG calls, Hero calls

Is the 3 bet my only play here? Folding is obviously out of the question, and I don't like the idea of going into call down mode just yet, especially when it's quite likely I have the best hand. I think by 3-betting this I force my opponents to define their hands to a certain extent. When BB caps I think there's a good chance I'm beat, but let's see what happens on the turn.

Turn

3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB bets, UTG calls, Hero calls

Picked up flush draw, and UTG has slowed down.

River

10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

BB bets, UTG calls, Hero ????

Is this river worth a value raise? The BB hasn't slowed down yet, so I think it's not unreasonable to think there's a good chance he has KK, 99 or something of that nature. I also thought he could have AK, AA, maybe KQ or a weaker king if he's a complete maniac. The other factor I considered in all of this was UTG padding the pot with what is almost certainly a weaker hand, so even instead of the old risk two bets to win one, I'm risking two bets to win two. Easy raise, or just a call?
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: AKs Value raise the river?

Any reads? Those would be nice
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: AKs Value raise the river?

OMG, you have the nuts and 2 people have already put money in on the river....


Edit: I'm a donk, didn't read the paired board. This is more interesting.
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: AKs Value raise the river?

AA - 3
KK - 1
99 - 3
AK - 6
KQ - I'll weight this down to 2 given the heavy action even though there are 8

Ahead: 9
Behind: 4

This doesn't even include KQ. Plus you have good overlay on your raise 3-way. Raise.
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: AKs Value raise the river?

I think it's close, and as you have no reads it depends on your default characterization of 1/2 opponents at PokerRoom. I play at Party and I'm definitely raising this as AA, KK, and AK are all played like this, and KK is far less likely. Plus at Party you have the 10% maniac donk factor where this guy could turn over something comepletly bizzare.
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: AKs Value raise the river?

Raise, call a 3-bet, watch him turn over AA, smile.
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: AKs Value raise the river?

Only hand that I can see capping the flop that you are behind is KK. Theres only one hand that can be made with that so i'd take my chances and raise it up.
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: AKs Value raise the river?

Sorry guys, 4 tabling+no poker tracker=no reads. Isura, I didn't have the nuts, the board was paired, and given the preflop and flop action, I don't feel like it was entirely unreasonable to think somebody might have had a boat.
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Old 09-14-2005, 12:37 AM
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Default Re: AKs Value raise the river?

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I don't feel like it was entirely unreasonable to think somebody might have had a boat.

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Of course it's not unreasonable. The question is what % of the time do you think you're good here. Like you said you are likely risking two bets to gain two. So do you think you're good >50% of the time? I say probably yes but that's at Party 1/2 don't know how PokerRoom plays.

BTW Can you use PokerAce or Gametime with PokerRoom?
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Old 09-14-2005, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: AKs Value raise the river?

I definately raise here, KK is just so insanely unlikely now that I'd almost debate a cap if BB 3 bet. But that's probably a bit too nuts, so let's just raise here.
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