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Old 08-22-2005, 01:42 AM
meleader2 meleader2 is offline
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Default Any marketing specialists/business men out there?

i recently got a piece of software i wrote copyrighted and am actually very very nervous. it is something that (at least it seems) the audience i am focusing on needs. i was told i could get away with selling it for $500 a pop, but am settling to do it for $300 to attract smaller companies.

my question is (and i'm sure it probably won't be answered) what is the likelyhood of being run over by some competition like Microsoft if and when they get wind of this area of software development being an untapped resource.

i'm a complete newb to marketing as well, i'm a comp sci student super senior status and i feel like this is my way out to become independently wealthy yet if i MESS THIS UP it will fail.

i need all and any thoughts for marketing and protecting myself.


thanks in advance.
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:50 AM
GoblinMason (Craig) GoblinMason (Craig) is offline
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Default Re: Any marketing specialists/business men out there?

Well I can't help you.

But you've come to the right place.
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Old 08-22-2005, 01:53 AM
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Old 08-22-2005, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: Any marketing specialists/business men out there?

Without knowing the area of sodtware then who knows, but if someone brings out somthing and it is making lots of sales then there is bound to be competition to follow although more likely from a smaller software house than microsoft etc, by the time you have sales that might interest them chances are you can sell up and retire anyway.

The way you compete is being first to the market so having a good customer base that you can sell upgrades too, as well as having excellent support and aftersales care.

You need a good business plan one that plans at different levels of growth dependant on small, medium and large growth of the sales otherwise you may grow too quick and not have enough staff etc to cope with demand or you have too many staff and have too high costs.

If you know nothing about business I would suggest going into partnership with someone with good business experience or maybe selling the product to a larger software house retaining a percentage of the sales income as part of the deal.

Your biggest enemy and concern at this point is not future competition its getting your business setup and off the ground cos that is a hell of a battle in itself.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:07 AM
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Your biggest enemy and concern at this point is not future competition its getting your business setup and off the ground cos that is a hell of a battle in itself.

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yes i'm realizing that now. thanks for your advice.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:12 AM
Arnfinn Madsen Arnfinn Madsen is offline
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Microsoft and similar corporations will not even bother with your product until it gets a considerable market share (too many start ups for them to watch all of them). You can work under their radar for a long time and get personally rich. You have the luxury/advantage of positioning to them while they are not positioning to you. If you want to make it into a large global corporation you would have to consider it though.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:16 AM
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Microsoft and similar corporations will not even bother with your product until it gets a considerable market share (too many start ups for them to watch all of them). You can work under their radar for a long time and get personally rich. You have the luxury/advantage of positioning to them while they are not positioning to you. If you want to make it into a large global corporation you would have to consider it though.

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that would be the next step. this is all dependent upon how successful it is in the WNY/toronto/rochester areas. making flyers right now is easy and i can give live demonstrations, but once i move it to out of state i'm going to have some trouble with Kinko-ing 5,000 copies of my flyer and spending hundreds on postage. what a pain.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:43 AM
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i recently got a piece of software i wrote copyrighted and am actually very very nervous.

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To start, I would like some clarification on a few items... you got this piece of software from somewhere, or you actually wrote it yourself? If you wrote it yourself, was it for a school project or simply for your own purposes? Universities have very strict rules as to establishing ownership of a piece of software created during your time of study. Additionally, you say that it is copyrighted. If so, where and with whom did you obtain this copyright? [ QUOTE ]
it is something that (at least it seems) the audience i am focusing on needs.

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This doesn't seem like a very positive outlook to me. You say "at least it seems" that people need your software. You really need to analyze the potential market for your product. I am not really a marketing guy, but it doesn't seem to me that you really understand everything that you are about to get into. I would hate to see you incur expenses to get your project going without having any idea who to sell your product to.
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i was told i could get away with selling it for $500 a pop, but am settling to do it for $300 to attract smaller companies.

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Again, who told you that you could get away with it for $500, and did you calculate $300 yourself or you just take that number out of thin air?

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my question is (and i'm sure it probably won't be answered) what is the likelyhood of being run over by some competition like Microsoft if and when they get wind of this area of software development being an untapped resource.

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Without knowing anything about your software, this is still really easy to answer. You will eventually face competition, that is how the system is set up. You have to create your product in a way that it is not easily copied. For example, there had to be a person who came up with the idea for online gaming. But obviously, there is no way to prevent competition because it isn't difficult to create this software. You need a comprehensive business plan for your software, even if you are the only person running this business. Thinking out lots of possibilities is a good way to understand the business at hand. I could go into this a lot further, but it probably will not be much help. The last thing I will say here is that there is an exit strategy for every business. With software, it might be best to eventually have your product purchased from a software giant. Many of the original business partners make millions off such transactions and never have to work again. If you want to keep running the business yourself, you obviously still have to work Where do you see your potential business is 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, 3 years, etc.

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i'm a complete newb to marketing as well, i'm a comp sci student super senior status and i feel like this is my way out to become independently wealthy yet if i MESS THIS UP it will fail.

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My strong recommendation is that you find a business partner, likely a person from your school, who is willing to partner with you. It doesn't sound like you have any idea about business related items, and if you don't want to screw this up then you should get some help from someone who does. At my school, there is an entire entreprenuer program that links the people with the ideas, such as yourself, to the people that knows how to market and sell the idea. This would be ideal for you.

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i need all and any thoughts for marketing and protecting myself.

thanks in advance.

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Lastly, we don't know anything at all from you except you have this software that people might need and you don't want to be overtaken by Microsoft. I don't know how to help you because I don't have any information that I can use to effectively give you recommendations. The best recommendation I can make right now is that you partner with someone who knows about startups or has a business background.
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Old 08-22-2005, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: Any marketing specialists/business men out there?

Go out and get the book called "Crossing the Chasam" its about marketing high-tech and software products. It will give you a lot of excellent insight in to how to sell your product. Here are some salient points from it:

1. Specialize it and sell it to a target market that will use it and become depenedent on it - figure out ahead of time what industry that is. (health care, engineering, medical, etc.) IDENTIFY YOUR TARGET MARKET.

2. As said earlier be ready and able to customize, provide upgrades and support to your early adopting purchasers so that it works as they need it too - they are the ones most likely to a. buy it again and b. refer it to others in the industry.

3. spend a few bucks on marketing, packaging, the manual and online support/help/forum/etc. people need to feel like they are buying something that will be around for a while.

4. provide excellent customer service and support, be generous with refunds to unhappy customers and thank your best customers sincerely.

there's a lot more but that is just off the top of my head - go get the book, TODAY!
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: Any marketing specialists/business men out there?

Just one more advice, at some point of time (not too far into the future) your product will be completely worthless since someone has come up with something better. So focus on selling it now while it has potential, don't make big plans for the future based on it.
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